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08-28-2015 | 11:58 PM

#941

milehighskyline

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From: Ball Turret Gunner

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Originally Posted by Fpmx772

Does anyone have, or know where I can obtain a copy of that one year training contract we all signed on day one?

These contracts do not hold up. A. The company has not gone after anyone for it. B unless you live in the state where the airline is based (Arizona) they can not go after you. C if they did it is very very easy to win the case. If you are thinking about leaving just do it. Get out make a better living.

08-29-2015 | 04:23 AM

#942

wt932051

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Mesa went after them before bankruptcy. They needed money. Sent out a bunch of Fedex certified letters. Not sure if anyone paid them.

08-29-2015 | 04:24 AM

#943

Sennant

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Reserves cannot pick up open time right now either

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Originally Posted by BeatNavy

From the TA FAQs:
Why can’t reserves pick up flying on Red Flag Days?
As long as it’s not a day off you can. Allowing a reserve to pick up flying on a day off could possibly interfere with FAR 117 legality.

Currently, both on reserve or as a line holder I can pick up flying on my days off. How does this answer make sense? I can't even find it in the new contract.

On a related note, what chaps me is that whole belief that reserves shouldn't be able to pick up needed flying on days off. We get emails from CPO asking us to pick up premium trips but we can't pick them up if we are on reserve because of the potential of running into 117 issues.. When I've been a line holder I am closer to busting 117 rules than when I've been on reserve if I were to pick up trips on days off.

08-29-2015 | 06:32 AM

#944

BeatNavy

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Originally Posted by Sennant

Reserves cannot pick up open time right now either

Not on their days on, but they can on their days off, which is my point. I dropped a trip to a friend on reserve who picked up as much time as he could. Had 9 days off. But he was able to pick up some good trips on his days off and broke guarantee.

08-29-2015 | 06:58 AM

#945

iFlyRC

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Originally Posted by BeatNavy

You could not finish your 12 months and be even farther ahead...any bonus that every other regional has will cover the training contract, and their better pay will cover your loss of longevity at Mesa. Also: "The monetary balance of any training agreement shall be reduced by fifty percent (50%) provided the pilot gives the Company forty-five (45) days notice prior to resignation."

Unless JO announces new flying soon, regardless of this vote (unless a landslide no results in a fairly quick TA2 that is more acceptable), a ton of FOs are going to bail and no one will show up for class except a few guys who live in PHX/IAH/DFW/IAD. This could turn real ugly real quick (which is why all this bad language in the TA can and will affect us). But the new flying he will announce will not be enough to stop the future bleeding IMO.

Quality of life is more important than pay alone, as it includes pay. Many are in fact better off leaving Mesa if the end result is that they are happier. My attitude is that I hate the "pilot lifestyle" and no amount of money will fix that. What will fix it however is an increase in days off, or living in base. Better work rules often is more important than actual pay. I'm only living paycheck to paycheck because I opt to save 1000$ a month.