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Old 10-12-2016 | 11:18 AM
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Is anyone else disappointed that no one is trolling the comments on the Facebook page?
Based on the videos, it looks like MK is a lifer (time is running out...tick tock) and is trying to nudge his way into management. Not surprised he hasn't been able to get out with all the skeletons in his closet. He is the Donald Trump of Mesa HAhahahahahahahaha.
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Old 10-12-2016 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by GoldSealCFI
Is anyone else disappointed that no one is trolling the comments on the Facebook page?
Based on the videos, it looks like MK is a lifer and is trying to nudge his way into management. Not surprised he hasn't been able to get out with all the skeletons in his closet. He is the Donald Trump of Mesa hahaha.
I'd love to move in to management, help me cover the 3k in medical bills I got even though I have mesa "insurance"
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Old 10-12-2016 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by payingdues
are you guys losing FOs at a faster rate with the WOd pay raises?
Out of my class I became good friends with about 7 guys. We've been out of training for 2 months and 4 are in various stages of leaving...given notice, interviews with other regionals etc. Very unfortunate. So I can not say a 50% drop out rate of the class but a higher percentage than that of my friends are leaving.
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Old 10-12-2016 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by GoldSealCFI
Is anyone else disappointed that no one is trolling the comments on the Facebook page?
Based on the videos, it looks like MK is a lifer (time is running out...tick tock) and is trying to nudge his way into management. Not surprised he hasn't been able to get out with all the skeletons in his closet. He is the Donald Trump of Mesa HAhahahahahahahaha.
He's much closer to Hillary.
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Old 10-12-2016 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Duct Mon
Faster upgradezzzzzzz and more money

Piedmont Airlines > Careers > Career Guides > Pilots
..and apparently fancier ties too, as depicted in the Piedmont photo.

Makes me think...since the sickout survey disappeared perhaps there are some other 'civil disobedience' things for us to do.

Pink ties are allowed through the end of this month. IMO a tie rebellion after the pink period ends would be interesting. Do we have Mesa uniform police strolling the airports looking for violators? Doubt it...One or two people wearing 'non-standard' ties **might** go unnoticed. A solo tie rebel, or a few, **might** get noticed and result in a write-up or report to the Chief Pilot. But if a bunch of us did it, in significant numbers, would every single one of us get written up? Would they fire us for non-standard ties? NO. It's a quality of life issue, and costs the company nothing to allow us to do it, and they don't have time for Alvin and the others to be counseling us on proper fashion. :-)

OTOH...it might be expected that we have a contractual uniform look required by our codeshare partners, and Mesa agreed to such. That's why go! got away with the casual look..there was no mainline agreement to worry about.

A sickout, even one organized ad-hoc (not by the union) **might** be illegal and that would be up to the courts to decide. A mass wearing of non-standard ties? It sends a message that we are unhappy with the status quo...well, at least anyone with intelligence would recognize that. The company, since little intelligence resides in the mothership, would probably let this be .. but I suspect AA/UA would be saying something to Mesa HQ about getting us pilots in line with the likely required corporate look. It starts to get our message out and in the face of our operating partners and the public to a certain extent.

It's been hashed out here ad infinitum that the union is going to do nothing. History does have a way of repeating itself. We need to start doing ..SOMETHING.

My .02. Whether you consider this folly or not, let a discussion begin here about how we start the process of publicly expressing our displeasure.
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Old 10-12-2016 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by iFlyRC
He's much closer to Hillary.
Definitely closer to Hillary!
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Old 10-12-2016 | 03:25 PM
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I love seeing all these resignations! Finally people are waking up! JO... this is going to hurt!
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Old 10-12-2016 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by EjetTaxi
I love seeing all these resignations! Finally people are waking up! JO... this is going to hurt!
I wonder if JO would accept that his tone, his stance, and apparent blindness to the issues at hand during the last conference call, played a huge role in this pilot exodus?
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Old 10-12-2016 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWizard
..and apparently fancier ties too, as depicted in the Piedmont photo.



Makes me think...since the sickout survey disappeared perhaps there are some other 'civil disobedience' things for us to do.



Pink ties are allowed through the end of this month. IMO a tie rebellion after the pink period ends would be interesting. Do we have Mesa uniform police strolling the airports looking for violators? Doubt it...One or two people wearing 'non-standard' ties **might** go unnoticed. A solo tie rebel, or a few, **might** get noticed and result in a write-up or report to the Chief Pilot. But if a bunch of us did it, in significant numbers, would every single one of us get written up? Would they fire us for non-standard ties? NO. It's a quality of life issue, and costs the company nothing to allow us to do it, and they don't have time for Alvin and the others to be counseling us on proper fashion. :-)



OTOH...it might be expected that we have a contractual uniform look required by our codeshare partners, and Mesa agreed to such. That's why go! got away with the casual look..there was no mainline agreement to worry about.



A sickout, even one organized ad-hoc (not by the union) **might** be illegal and that would be up to the courts to decide. A mass wearing of non-standard ties? It sends a message that we are unhappy with the status quo...well, at least anyone with intelligence would recognize that. The company, since little intelligence resides in the mothership, would probably let this be .. but I suspect AA/UA would be saying something to Mesa HQ about getting us pilots in line with the likely required corporate look. It starts to get our message out and in the face of our operating partners and the public to a certain extent.



It's been hashed out here ad infinitum that the union is going to do nothing. History does have a way of repeating itself. We need to start doing ..SOMETHING.



My .02. Whether you consider this folly or not, let a discussion begin here about how we start the process of publicly expressing our displeasure.


Maybe captains should just stop helping FOs fly visuals. A bunch of go-arounds daily would get someone's attention.
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Old 10-12-2016 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Nu11us
Maybe captains should just stop helping FOs fly visuals. A bunch of go-arounds daily would get someone's attention.
Just think about it... bad visual... even worse go around. No thanks. My controls... land the plane... talk about it after parking.
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