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#1241
Covfefe
Joined: Jun 2015
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People keep talking about the crews being awesome to fly with as a reason for staying, or as a positive aspect of working at Mesa. Do you really think the crews at other airlines are not as awesome? Pilots are pilots. Some drink different koolaid, but I don't think there's a group out there that wouldn't be as good or better than the Mesa pilots I flew with.
#1242
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2015
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People keep talking about the crews being awesome to fly with as a reason for staying, or as a positive aspect of working at Mesa. Do you really think the crews at other airlines are not as awesome? Pilots are pilots. Some drink different koolaid, but I don't think there's a group out there that wouldn't be as good or better than the Mesa pilots I flew with.
A unified pilot group that works together to achieve some thing better is an awesome pilot group. This group is self serving and can't get their union leadership to even organize an informational picket. I'm calling out all of you to start emailing, calling and texting your union CA and FO reps. It's about time we see action from us and quit blaming the union or mgmt.
#1243
Banned
Joined: Jan 2016
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The following smug comment was made by user giggity37 on January 26th, 2016:
I know I'm regretting my decision everyday. I could still be on reserve and have my promised flow. All I have now is 4 bars and a awesome schedule. But seriously let us know how it is in 6 months. You "might" change your tune. Good luck I hope it works out.
Source:
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...hread-397.html
giggity37 left Envoy for Mesa-I'll give you a moment to stop laughing..go ahead, I'll wait-then proceeded act like he made the best decision ever. And when I left Mesa for Envoy, he made the post above...
Well, it's been well over 6 months...and how is it working out for me? Lol...you still think I "might" change my tune? Well here you go: Best decision of my life. Night and day. How else can I put it?
Another point: Some of you at Mesa are afraid of making a lateral move because you think a Regional is a Regional is a Regional. Wrong. Listen carefully. Anywhere you go from Mesa will be a HUGE step up...including to any other Regional short of Great Lakes or Silver. You don't realize how much better other Regionals are run, how they are more professional, how better life is, etc...
Point is, it's not a lateral move if you are coming from Mesa. For Christ's sake look at the pay difference between Mesa and Envoy. That's just for starters. The training, maintenance, benefits, all of it is like going from a podunk commuter to a real airline. Get up and move now...you are wasting time at Mesa.
And giggity37...tell us how things are working out for you these days. Still want to make sarcastic, smug remarks? Still think you leaving Envoy for Mesa was a great move? We've come a very long way since that original post of yours, haven't we?
I know I'm regretting my decision everyday. I could still be on reserve and have my promised flow. All I have now is 4 bars and a awesome schedule. But seriously let us know how it is in 6 months. You "might" change your tune. Good luck I hope it works out.
Source:
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...hread-397.html
giggity37 left Envoy for Mesa-I'll give you a moment to stop laughing..go ahead, I'll wait-then proceeded act like he made the best decision ever. And when I left Mesa for Envoy, he made the post above...
Well, it's been well over 6 months...and how is it working out for me? Lol...you still think I "might" change my tune? Well here you go: Best decision of my life. Night and day. How else can I put it?
Another point: Some of you at Mesa are afraid of making a lateral move because you think a Regional is a Regional is a Regional. Wrong. Listen carefully. Anywhere you go from Mesa will be a HUGE step up...including to any other Regional short of Great Lakes or Silver. You don't realize how much better other Regionals are run, how they are more professional, how better life is, etc...
Point is, it's not a lateral move if you are coming from Mesa. For Christ's sake look at the pay difference between Mesa and Envoy. That's just for starters. The training, maintenance, benefits, all of it is like going from a podunk commuter to a real airline. Get up and move now...you are wasting time at Mesa.
And giggity37...tell us how things are working out for you these days. Still want to make sarcastic, smug remarks? Still think you leaving Envoy for Mesa was a great move? We've come a very long way since that original post of yours, haven't we?
#1244
I'm not a company cheerleader, but I do appreciate accuracy.
As tinman pointed out and as you can see here...
...that's not true. Additionally, unless you've accrued 1000 hours in the left seat, it might not even be worth leaving for an LCC. To each his own, but there's absolutely a reason to stay at Mesa - for the time being - if you're building some TPIC. As for FO's, unless that upgrade is getting close, I'd agree it might be time to look elsewhere.
Just came across these in the SkyWest thread:


I guess the majors each have their favorite regional to pick from. ExpressJet for United, Compass and Endeavor for Delta, and Envoy for American (not pictured). We're on there, but the numbers aren't very impressive. I still wonder how much it has to do with our junior workforce and if the numbers will get a boost in a year or two.


I guess the majors each have their favorite regional to pick from. ExpressJet for United, Compass and Endeavor for Delta, and Envoy for American (not pictured). We're on there, but the numbers aren't very impressive. I still wonder how much it has to do with our junior workforce and if the numbers will get a boost in a year or two.
#1245
I'm not a company cheerleader, but I do appreciate accuracy.
As tinman pointed out and as you can see here...
...that's not true. Additionally, unless you've accrued 1000 hours in the left seat, it might not even be worth leaving for an LCC. To each his own, but there's absolutely a reason to stay at Mesa - for the time being - if you're building some TPIC. As for FO's, unless that upgrade is getting close, I'd agree it might be time to look elsewhere.
As tinman pointed out and as you can see here...
...that's not true. Additionally, unless you've accrued 1000 hours in the left seat, it might not even be worth leaving for an LCC. To each his own, but there's absolutely a reason to stay at Mesa - for the time being - if you're building some TPIC. As for FO's, unless that upgrade is getting close, I'd agree it might be time to look elsewhere.
#1246
Line Holder
Joined: Sep 2015
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From: Couch FO
Stuck at Mesa, tried lateral moves... Compass, SKW, Endeavor, Envoy, Spirit, nope...
Hmm... explains why I'm at Mesa... going down with the sinking ship and then hitting the food court as a worker at the local mall... yep! I'm screwed in the airline pilot life!
So to all of you some of us here cannot get out even if we wanted to... explains a lot!
Hmm... explains why I'm at Mesa... going down with the sinking ship and then hitting the food court as a worker at the local mall... yep! I'm screwed in the airline pilot life!
So to all of you some of us here cannot get out even if we wanted to... explains a lot!
#1247
Stuck at Mesa, tried lateral moves... Compass, SKW, Endeavor, Envoy, Spirit, nope...
Hmm... explains why I'm at Mesa... going down with the sinking ship and then hitting the food court as a worker at the local mall... yep! I'm screwed in the airline pilot life!
So to all of you some of us here cannot get out even if we wanted to... explains a lot!
Hmm... explains why I'm at Mesa... going down with the sinking ship and then hitting the food court as a worker at the local mall... yep! I'm screwed in the airline pilot life!
So to all of you some of us here cannot get out even if we wanted to... explains a lot!
#1248
On Reserve
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 23
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People keep talking about the crews being awesome to fly with as a reason for staying, or as a positive aspect of working at Mesa. Do you really think the crews at other airlines are not as awesome? Pilots are pilots. Some drink different koolaid, but I don't think there's a group out there that wouldn't be as good or better than the Mesa pilots I flew with.
You ask me to eat a bowl of **** for free and I'll complain all day. Pay me a million bucks and with a big smile I'll ask for a second helping please! Lol
#1249
Stuck at Mesa, tried lateral moves... Compass, SKW, Endeavor, Envoy, Spirit, nope...
Hmm... explains why I'm at Mesa... going down with the sinking ship and then hitting the food court as a worker at the local mall... yep! I'm screwed in the airline pilot life!
So to all of you some of us here cannot get out even if we wanted to... explains a lot!
Hmm... explains why I'm at Mesa... going down with the sinking ship and then hitting the food court as a worker at the local mall... yep! I'm screwed in the airline pilot life!
So to all of you some of us here cannot get out even if we wanted to... explains a lot!
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