Force Shaping release 26 July
08-02-2006, 06:11 AM
#31
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: 767A (Ret)
Posts: 6,248
The more things change...
Originally Posted by MalteseX
When I was reading of what is going on in the "current" AF and how the AF has "changed", I kinda laughed ... that could have been written in 1975, 1983, 1987, 1994, etc.
Good point. And had this forum existed in those years, it would have contained posts saying that airline flying used to be great, but now it stinks, new-hires used to be real sharp, but now they stink, flight schools used to be excellent, but now they stink, 9-to-5 jobs stink and always have,---and so on. What can you do but hold your nose and press on?
08-02-2006, 06:34 AM
#32
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Joined APC: May 2006
Posts: 394
Originally Posted by tomgoodman
Good point. And had this forum existed in those years, it would have contained posts saying that airline flying used to be great, but now it stinks, new-hires used to be real sharp, but now they stink, flight schools used to be excellent, but now they stink, 9-to-5 jobs stink and always have,---and so on. What can you do but hold your nose and press on?
WHITLY never changes!!
08-08-2006, 07:31 PM
#33
New Hire
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Posts: 1
VSP bonus
Personally I am taking the bonus, not because I want to get out, but it affords me a chance to go to my hometown reserve unit. I'm looking forward to the chance to serve from home. I tried Palace Chase once, but my Wing/CC reccomended disapproval. If I go through the VSP program instead of Palace chase, the requirement for a wing/CC signature has been waived. Already submitted my app.
Randy
Randy
08-20-2006, 09:41 PM
#34
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Joined APC: Oct 2005
Posts: 900
Originally Posted by Randy2134
Personally I am taking the bonus, not because I want to get out, but it affords me a chance to go to my hometown reserve unit. I'm looking forward to the chance to serve from home. I tried Palace Chase once, but my Wing/CC reccomended disapproval. If I go through the VSP program instead of Palace chase, the requirement for a wing/CC signature has been waived. Already submitted my app.
Randy
Randy
09-10-2006, 04:08 PM
#35
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Joined APC: Jul 2006
Posts: 31
First post:
My question for any active duty duys is how many of these things are getting approved?
I was in the same boat, tried to Palace Chase under force shaping, wing CC refused to sign off and I was told by the force shaping office that that was the biggest factor.
Proud to have served, but I was on the fence before, now to have a financial bonus, well, it took made the decision a little easier. This will be nine years, C-17s maybe are'nt as busy as some others out there . . .
Beernuts
My question for any active duty duys is how many of these things are getting approved?
I was in the same boat, tried to Palace Chase under force shaping, wing CC refused to sign off and I was told by the force shaping office that that was the biggest factor.
Proud to have served, but I was on the fence before, now to have a financial bonus, well, it took made the decision a little easier. This will be nine years, C-17s maybe are'nt as busy as some others out there . . .
Beernuts
09-10-2006, 06:53 PM
#36
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Joined APC: Apr 2006
Position: 737 F/O
Posts: 71
Shackone,
You should be ashamed of yourself for talking badly of ANYONE who served his country honorably and decided to move on - there are so few people who serve at all. If the rewards (whether fiscal, spiritual, intellectual or otherwise) are no longer sufficient to someone to continue to serve we should move on, say thank you for your service and there will always be others to fill the void. The career of a military officer is challenging and dangerous and we should honor the people who serve. The military is more than happy to dump people if the "needs of the Air Force" require it - see the RIF of the early 90s - when many qualified and deserving people were dumped or others were later passed over and thrown out.
All of you need to make the best decision for yourselves and your families:
Thank you for your Service
From a 22 YEAR Retired Lt Colonel
You should be ashamed of yourself for talking badly of ANYONE who served his country honorably and decided to move on - there are so few people who serve at all. If the rewards (whether fiscal, spiritual, intellectual or otherwise) are no longer sufficient to someone to continue to serve we should move on, say thank you for your service and there will always be others to fill the void. The career of a military officer is challenging and dangerous and we should honor the people who serve. The military is more than happy to dump people if the "needs of the Air Force" require it - see the RIF of the early 90s - when many qualified and deserving people were dumped or others were later passed over and thrown out.
All of you need to make the best decision for yourselves and your families:
Thank you for your Service
From a 22 YEAR Retired Lt Colonel
09-10-2006, 11:10 PM
#40
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: 756 FO
Posts: 13
You have to pay back the VSP as a percentage of your retirement pay.
For my situation it would have been about $1200 less a month until completely paid back with cost of living increase adjustment. Guess part of the cost they want to cut is retirement and future medical so we're encouraged to make a clean break from the military. BTW I took it and got approved. Hope I don't end up living in my parents basement.
For my situation it would have been about $1200 less a month until completely paid back with cost of living increase adjustment. Guess part of the cost they want to cut is retirement and future medical so we're encouraged to make a clean break from the military. BTW I took it and got approved. Hope I don't end up living in my parents basement.
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