Originally Posted by av8trinabarrel

As much as I’m thankful to be long gone from nj, I def have a new appreciation for the crew food days. I could always have a decent salad and something else to fill up the gut throughout the day. Now days I’m happy to find an $18 burger in the terminal before the kitchen closes. Beotch all you want, but at least it was a meal!! Good luck folks!

Originally Posted by wankel7

What if I told you there are services....some internet based....that will bring food to your current location? All without even leaving your room.

Originally Posted by Guard

Union calls have been interesting, looks like they tried to make life better for crews with this one and penalize the company for keeping people on the hook just to keep them on the hook or fly them inefficiently. HBA for everyone on the books now will be nice change for many of us, having commuted for years and doing crash pad and traffic and 4 hour drives and sleeping in crew rooms this all looks better to me but its all up to the individual needs! Now I will get up to $168 an hour override when I am getting screwed!

Originally Posted by tm602

Not necessarily. Read the exceptions to it. There are many.

Originally Posted by GeeWizDriver

And intentionally confusing. Much like the insurance companies try to baffle you with enough BS that you give up, many of the provisions of the TA are written so that it will be nearly impossible to make sure you are getting paid correctly.

If you get hotel stby by a certain time, no soup for you. If you are at the airport you get paid unless you had R2 duty assigned at a certain time, no soup for you. If you fly at night you get paid unless Aquarius is in its third phase and then no soup for you.

We’re STILL going to sit hot spare until 2 AM. We’re STILL going to work 12 hour days, every day. We’re STILL going to get min rest. Sometimes, you’ll get paid a few extra scheckels, sometimes, you’ll get loopholed, sometimes, it will rain...

It will pass, but not with my help.

Originally Posted by JMO127

I rarely spend money on the road.

Originally Posted by G550Guy

You are a unionized Pilot groups worst nightmare.....

Per Diem is NOT income! How many times do you need to hear it?



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Originally Posted by OhSnapAF

I am not reading any of this. I will just tell you to stop trying to justify your idea that per diem is income. It LITERALLY isn't. The government doesn't classify it as income, it isn't paid as income, it isn't taxed like income. It is paid to you solely to cover on the road expenses.

Also, ideas like this undermine what work groups have achieved for your benefit. There are many that have fought hard for you to get per diem as a means to supplement your expenses on the road. You wanna eat crew meals in your boxers and pocket the per diem, by all means you have that right, it is your money, but if it has to be part of your income for you to survive, you might not make enough INCOME.

It is all a personal choice what to do with the money that the company puts in your bank account, that is for sure, but I will never for the life of me understand why people punish themselves on the road when they are gone half their lives for work, and spending half their lives in hotel rooms. Use it, enjoy it.


Also, you wanna be anti-union, then go find another career, we don't need you.

Originally Posted by JMO127

Punish? I get 2 meals and a company paid meal for dinner or whenever I choose. No limit on what I get cost wise, just don't be stupid. We eat well on the road. Sorry you don't feel that way. Of course you won't read something you're afraid of. You might learn something or heaven forbid agree with something someone else said.

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