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12-08-2018 | 12:28 PM

#391

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Originally Posted by tm602

You miss the point. If you are fine with having to fatigue to eat, I don't know what to tell you. Fatigue calls are for fatigue, not to eat.

There are multiple factors which cause fatigue. One of them is poor nutrition. The obvious one is improper rest. Circadian rhythm shifts are another. Some people wait until they are draggin ass to call. I don't let myself get to that state. It's not good for my passengers or for me.
I know my body well enough, and have been around this gig long enough to know when I'll be properly rested. And I take the necessary steps, afforded by agreement, to ensure I'm well rested, well nourished and safe to fly.

12-08-2018 | 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by David Puddy

Question: are the incoming Longitudes basically replacing outgoing Xs and Sovereigns? Will there be any net new seats with the Longitudes? I guess that partly depends on executed order numbers too for Netjets USA vs Netjets Europe.

Friend said he saw a Longitude in the Netjets hanger recently. Impressive airplane.

The Longitudes are a super midsize airplane, like the Challenger 350s. They will supplement that fleet. The Xs and Sovereigns will be slowly disposed of, with the Xs going first. The passengers really like the Challengers. NJA needs more super midsize jets. But management decided to purchase Longitudes instead of more CL-350s. It'll be interesting to see how they compare.

12-08-2018 | 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by hydra

No it won't!! It might impact the extra flight pay for the day. But with a fatigue call, the company can now schedule you further out the next day. Trust me when I tell you that even when I fatigue, the company gets a LOT of flight time the next day. When I fatigue, I usually end up getting a later day the next day, filled with flying. So it's a fallacy that fatiguing will negatively impact the over 12.1 pay. I'm sure it will happen sometimes. But on the whole, it won't matter.

It will 100% impact your W2. NJA needs X number of hours flown per day. When everyone stops fatiguing, X number of hours are spread over a higher quantity of pilots. You don't think that out of the blue, there will just be hundreds of more hours per day flown, do you?

You are comparing the current workload to current fatigues. The math doesn't work if everyone stops fatiguing.

12-08-2018 | 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by hydra

Yea I think his point is, and mine as well, that fatigues are not a normal means of obtaining everything you listed, in the rest of the industry. It is a means to rectify an abnormal situation to your work schedule. Being ran into the ground every tour and just fatiguing once or twice a tour shouldn't be the standard. Now, NetJets created that problem, not the pilots, so you guys have to do what you have to do, to mitigate those issues.

12-08-2018 | 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by hydra

Nope. When you "fatigue," you don't have to give a diatribe about why. You call them and say, "I'm fatigued." They say, "okay. When do you want to show tomorrow?" That's it. And nobody is following you around ordering you to go to stay in your hotel room.
NOBODY has been fired at NJA for calling in fatigued. And nobody I know abuses the policy.

Calling in fatigued just to get a chance to use a meal deviation WOULD BE abusing the fatigue policy. That’s the point.

12-08-2018 | 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by hydra

Interesting. I’ve seen the Latitude up close and I was impressed - and I heard the Longitude offers several improvements and upgrades over the Latitude.

Is the “proposed” Hemisphere then basically a Falcon 2000 replacement? Let’s hope they figure out the engine issue ASAP...

12-08-2018 | 02:50 PM

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As a result of this TA, I wouldn’t doubt I’d we saw MANY 200k FOs... easily.

Small cabin.

They’ll be on the 72LT or 76LT.

I’m happy for them and their families.

Large Cabin will get in striking distance of small cabin PIC pay with the OT, longevity bonus and 40k payscales.

12-08-2018 | 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Retractable

As a result of this TA, I wouldn’t doubt I’d we saw MANY 200k FOs... easily.

Small cabin.

They’ll be on the 72LT or 76LT

You’re a silly human being. Easily? Is that with your 10 day a month extension plan?

12-08-2018 | 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Retractable

ROTFLMAO. Just like it’s increased LITERALLY ten fold. You shouldn’t drink and post on message boards. I laid out the facts for you man. Just say oops I was wrong and move on and make sure you base your next post on reality.

Actually you sound a lot like the FlexJet recruitment people. Come on over an make 200-350K a year and work 6 days a month.....we all know that’s BS.

12-08-2018 | 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Peloton

Between his 2-3 banned screen names and his current one, I venture that he has said the most comically innacurate things on APC over any other individual, and that’s saying a lot. He’s like a Scientologist, just keep spreading the nonsense and if 1 out of 100 bite, that’s a victory.