NetJets Hiring Process
04-30-2019, 12:35 PM
#321
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Originally Posted by Marko
So, is he a liability always or only when you fly with him? And if a "no fly" is not and cannot be the answer, and if FDAC is not mandatory, what can you do? Are you out of options?
Thankfully, in this case at least, kharma had the last laugh and he lost his medical for an unrelated issue.
04-30-2019, 12:46 PM
#322
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Originally Posted by GeeWizDriver
As I said, many other pilots were contacted and they confirmed similar experiences. Frankly, his case was well-known within the fleet, including among management, but he had his lawyer on speed-dial and he cowed the company into overlooking the issue. So beyond using Pro Standards to unwind the pairing each and evert time it came up, yes, there are no other options short of encouraging the company to pursue a mandatory retirement policy.
Thankfully, in this case at least, kharma had the last laugh and he lost his medical for an unrelated issue.
Thankfully, in this case at least, kharma had the last laugh and he lost his medical for an unrelated issue.
04-30-2019, 03:52 PM
#323
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Originally Posted by Marko
You filed a written report to management? To the FAA? To ASAP? Was it his age that was the issue or that he was unsafe?
04-30-2019, 04:02 PM
#324
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Originally Posted by GeeWizDriver
Would you consider falling asleep at TOD unsafe? How about at the hold short line? Cruise? Climb? He did all the above and more. There are literally dozens of pictures floating around out there. The fact that he is WELL over 70 only reinforces the fact that we need a mandatory retirement age to capture the outliers.
If it is a safety issue, have you exhausted all your resources?
04-30-2019, 04:26 PM
#325
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Originally Posted by Marko
If it is a safety issue, have you exhausted all your resources?
I would avoid answering any further questions from this Marko character.... he answers questions with more questions.
He’s either:
1. A complete dumb@$$
2. Management
3. Internet Troll
4. Combination of 1 or more
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04-30-2019, 04:57 PM
#326
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Originally Posted by G550Guy
I would avoid answering any further questions from this Marko character.... he answers questions with more questions.
He’s either:
1. A complete dumb@$$
2. Management
3. Internet Troll
4. Combination of 1 or more
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He’s either:
1. A complete dumb@$$
2. Management
3. Internet Troll
4. Combination of 1 or more
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04-30-2019, 04:57 PM
#327
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Originally Posted by G550Guy
I would avoid answering any further questions from this Marko character.... he answers questions with more questions.
He’s either:
1. A complete dumb@$$
2. Management
3. Internet Troll
4. Combination of 1 or more
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He’s either:
1. A complete dumb@$$
2. Management
3. Internet Troll
4. Combination of 1 or more
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
04-30-2019, 06:07 PM
#328
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Originally Posted by Marko
Nah, just trying to get him to reflect a bit. Many people just don't recognize their real issue or do but don't have the gumption to do what they know should be done. I certainly understand the frustration.
Reflect on what, exactly? The real issue?
The real issue is we had a narcoleptic fossil flying our airplanes, I witnessed it first hand, I confronted him directly, I witnessed it again, and I recommended him to the program that exists to deal with such issues, and it was whitewashed. That’s it.
Do you realize how few people around here have the “gumption” to submit another pilot to the FDAC program?
I think 550Guy is spot on. You’re either a dumba$$, management, a troll, or a pedantic richard cranium. Regardless, we’re done here.
04-30-2019, 07:33 PM
#329
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Originally Posted by GeeWizDriver
I’m sorry, say again? You’re coming in weak and stupid.
Reflect on what, exactly? The real issue?
The real issue is we had a narcoleptic fossil flying our airplanes, I witnessed it first hand, I confronted him directly, I witnessed it again, and I recommended him to the program that exists to deal with such issues, and it was whitewashed. That’s it.
Do you realize how few people around here have the “gumption” to submit another pilot to the FDAC program?
I think 550Guy is spot on. You’re either a dumba$$, management, a troll, or a pedantic richard cranium. Regardless, we’re done here.
Reflect on what, exactly? The real issue?
The real issue is we had a narcoleptic fossil flying our airplanes, I witnessed it first hand, I confronted him directly, I witnessed it again, and I recommended him to the program that exists to deal with such issues, and it was whitewashed. That’s it.
Do you realize how few people around here have the “gumption” to submit another pilot to the FDAC program?
I think 550Guy is spot on. You’re either a dumba$$, management, a troll, or a pedantic richard cranium. Regardless, we’re done here.
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