NetJets Tentative Agreement - thoughts?
03-03-2024, 05:48 AM
#11
Freight Dog
Joined APC: Jul 2023
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questions
I am curious as I can't find answers on the below:
1) What's consider small cabin vs class 5?
2) Expense option 2 and 3, does that means Per Diem AND crew meal/allowance. $4.01 + Meals/or $130 Reimbursement per day for CONUS? Or is it one or the other. I'm juse used to Per diem
3) Pay table shows YOS calculation and how to read it- Do you just go down the year effective date and how many years you've been with the company to determine your pay for that year would be?
1) What's consider small cabin vs class 5?
2) Expense option 2 and 3, does that means Per Diem AND crew meal/allowance. $4.01 + Meals/or $130 Reimbursement per day for CONUS? Or is it one or the other. I'm juse used to Per diem
3) Pay table shows YOS calculation and how to read it- Do you just go down the year effective date and how many years you've been with the company to determine your pay for that year would be?
03-03-2024, 07:26 AM
#12
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 179
I am curious as I can't find answers on the below:
1) What's consider small cabin vs class 5?
2) Expense option 2 and 3, does that means Per Diem AND crew meal/allowance. $4.01 + Meals/or $130 Reimbursement per day for CONUS? Or is it one or the other. I'm juse used to Per diem
3) Pay table shows YOS calculation and how to read it- Do you just go down the year effective date and how many years you've been with the company to determine your pay for that year would be?
1) What's consider small cabin vs class 5?
2) Expense option 2 and 3, does that means Per Diem AND crew meal/allowance. $4.01 + Meals/or $130 Reimbursement per day for CONUS? Or is it one or the other. I'm juse used to Per diem
3) Pay table shows YOS calculation and how to read it- Do you just go down the year effective date and how many years you've been with the company to determine your pay for that year would be?
Large Cabin = 650, Global 5000/5500/6000/6500
Small Cabin = Everything else
2) Option 2 appears to be per diem only and no crew meals. Option 3 is receipts (charge to company card) with the option to also order crew meals.
3) Correct. You have to look at the effective date column that will be in effect for the YOS you are looking at. For example - if on DOR you are in year 4 you'd look at the 5/1/24 column, YOS 4 row. For next year you'd look at the 5/1/25 column, YOS 5 row.
03-10-2024, 11:01 AM
#13
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
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1) Class 5 = Global 7500/8000
Large Cabin = 650, Global 5000/5500/6000/6500
Small Cabin = Everything else
2) Option 2 appears to be per diem only and no crew meals. Option 3 is receipts (charge to company card) with the option to also order crew meals.
3) Correct. You have to look at the effective date column that will be in effect for the YOS you are looking at. For example - if on DOR you are in year 4 you'd look at the 5/1/24 column, YOS 4 row. For next year you'd look at the 5/1/25 column, YOS 5 row.
Large Cabin = 650, Global 5000/5500/6000/6500
Small Cabin = Everything else
2) Option 2 appears to be per diem only and no crew meals. Option 3 is receipts (charge to company card) with the option to also order crew meals.
3) Correct. You have to look at the effective date column that will be in effect for the YOS you are looking at. For example - if on DOR you are in year 4 you'd look at the 5/1/24 column, YOS 4 row. For next year you'd look at the 5/1/25 column, YOS 5 row.
03-10-2024, 12:55 PM
#14
Speed, Power, Accuracy
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03-10-2024, 03:11 PM
#15
In a land of unicorns
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03-10-2024, 07:53 PM
#16
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03-11-2024, 06:55 PM
#17
Bent over by buybacks
Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 754
stating that the proposed compensation will be within 4.6% of 121 pay in 2029 makes the unreasonable assumption that 121 properties will not have their own pay raise by then.
03-11-2024, 07:35 PM
#18
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Joined APC: Jan 2021
Posts: 1,150
You’re right though they basically have no leverage. I can’t figure out why anyone would want to work at this slave shop anyways. What a dump.
Last edited by LAXtoDEN; 03-11-2024 at 07:51 PM.
03-12-2024, 04:21 AM
#19
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Posts: 1,043
While I doubt the difference will only be 4.6% by 2029, I dont believe it will be due to a new round of 121 contracts. It took 121 about 4 years on average after their last round of contracts became ammendable to get what they have now. I don't know how they will be any faster the next time. I hope 121 gets new contracts much quicker since it raises the bar everywhere, but I don't know why anyone would believe it likely.
03-12-2024, 05:23 AM
#20
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The only leverage they have is getting their house in order and walking off the job as a group. NetJets caters to the very wealthy few, not the populace. It might make it to the 5 o’clock news but not the Presidents desk.
You’re right though they basically have no leverage. I can’t figure out why anyone would want to work at this slave shop anyways. What a dump.
You’re right though they basically have no leverage. I can’t figure out why anyone would want to work at this slave shop anyways. What a dump.
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