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Old 02-12-2017, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYLOW22 View Post
Your question is a great one.

Airspeed indicator or airspeed trend arrow?

Depends on whether airlines are hiring or furloughing.


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Really? Has any Major captain ever resigned their job to go work at NJA? Furloughed Major pilots aren't Major pilots. They are jobless pilots.
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Old 02-12-2017, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 727C47 View Post
Play nice guys, by retirements alone the airlines will be hiring for years, and that is a very good thing for everybody, and Gods grace our little corner of the business is doing well, and will continue to do so,cheers , good wishes to all.
Well said....let´s all enjoy the good times wherever we feel comfortable
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Old 02-13-2017, 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyfalcons View Post
Furloughed Major pilots aren't Major pilots. They are jobless pilots.
Exactly.

And to answer your question, no. It's never happened. For obvious reasons.
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Old 02-13-2017, 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyfalcons View Post
Really? Has any Major captain ever resigned their job to go work at NJA? Furloughed Major pilots aren't Major pilots. They are jobless pilots.


Yes.

Delta had many pilots punch out and Coke to us amid losing their retirements becoming a possibility.

Circa 2005.

I know 4.

And yes... furloughed major airline pilots are major airline pilots with recall rights until they rescind.

Did you ever make it to a major cockpit Falcon? If not, what happened??


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Old 02-13-2017, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Nachomamma View Post
Exactly.



And to answer your question, no. It's never happened. For obvious reasons.


Wrong.

How's the corporate gig going Nacho?

https://youtu.be/sGISNd-lrzE


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Old 02-13-2017, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by FLYLOW22 View Post
Yes.

Delta had many pilots punch out and Coke to us amid losing their retirements becoming a possibility.

Circa 2005.

I know 4.

And yes... furloughed major airline pilots are major airline pilots with recall rights until they rescind.

Did you ever make it to a major cockpit Falcon? If not, what happened??


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Being furloughed and not accepting recall I can understand. The guys stapled to AA got royally screwed.

HOWEVERRRRRRR, I am not buying for one second that mainline Delta pilots quit to come make 28k flying an Ultra, I'm sorry I just don't believe that. There has to be more to that story...
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Old 02-13-2017, 06:05 AM
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Being furloughed and not accepting recall I can understand. The guys stapled to AA got royally screwed.



HOWEVERRRRRRR, I am not buying for one second that mainline Delta pilots quit to come make 28k flying an Ultra, I'm sorry I just don't believe that. There has to be more to that story...


I'll text you the scenario.

You must think post 9/11... 2005


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Old 02-13-2017, 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by FLYLOW22 View Post
Jetlife,

I hope you stay in touch.

Best of luck at the new gig! I knew it was coming.

Fwiw, your peer group leaving is spurring much conversation at higher levels regarding pay increases for F/Os outside of Section 6.... reportedly... the numbers will speak for themselves.



Fleet modernization will conclude. Hiring will increase. Upgrades will come. NetJets will continue on.

Be well.




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I will absolutely stay in touch. And I hope it comes. Maybe this is a lack of communication on the Unions part but nobody has really addressed that it's even an issue. Most of the pilot group knows it's an issue but management hasnt acknowledged it really...
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Old 02-13-2017, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by RhinoDriverF4F View Post
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I am just ignoring your reality Jetlife.....I don´t believe in alternate facts that you put out in these forums.

But hey, now it´s over for you...really, and I mean that....congrats on your job at the Major[/COLOR][/COLOR]
Alternate facts lol that's awesome. Again, burying your head in the sand doesn't make the issues go away.
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Old 02-13-2017, 06:17 AM
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I will absolutely stay in touch. And I hope it comes. Maybe this is a lack of communication on the Unions part but nobody has really addressed that it's even an issue. Most of the pilot group knows it's an issue but management hasnt acknowledged it really...


It's never been the Unions job to tell management to staff according to a certain formula outside of the CBA requirements.

It's never been the Unions position to tell management they should have paid FOs more in the 15 CBA.

That being said, if the numbers of PRIA checks climb to alarming levels, I think management will pay more to retain. Possibly all of us but certainly SICs.

Hiring will be a function of simulator capacity. Remember, the "signature" series portion of the Phenom 300 NJA took was, among other things, a Garmin 3000 install. Simcom or some other sim company had a contract with Emb to teach the EMB-505 (300) exclusively... which wouldn't work with NJA placing orders/options for 125 frames.

To "fix the glitch" NJA and Emb created the EMB-505S. Garmin equipped 300... which fell outside the contract for "Simcom".

Good thing was now training could take place in CMH. Bad thing... we only have this sim... no others NJA had access to with the Garmin 3000 suite.

Once NJA installs sim 2 and moves sim 1 from the old building, it will have the capacity to train NJUS, Europe and accommodate more new hires and upgrades. Right now, it's limited newhires, transitioning captains and recurrents... with a smattering of new upgrades and initials.

Capacity is coming.... until the facility is up and running, talking about more hiring and growth is just talk.




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