Since when is 2400 pilots almost 3000 lol.

 

*includes EJM

 

It's the kind of rounding my wife uses except in the other direction.

"Look at my great new shoes, Honey! Only $400*!"

*Actual price: $495.00

 

The average EJM Captain makes $244,000 working 7 on 7 off.

Why does EJM makes more then EJA? When the contract was signed 7&7 did not even cover COLA. However this POS was sold as gold to the pilots. Not to mention 100 pilots were in NYC ready to picket the next day. Only to be sold down the river with a **** TA and told stand down.

What's more funny is the new IBB failing. Should have thought of that before you sold your soul to the devil in 2015.

 

No pilot makes 244k at any BH company that flies airplanes on a 7/7 schedule. EJM is a management company so pay can be negotiated by the principle but there is no scale to reach 244k on the 7/7 schedule. Much more context would have to be provided to see how somebody could make 244k working a 7/7 schedule for EJM, in fact of all the EJM pilots I know, none of them have a set schedule, and none of them are in the same solar system to 244k a year salary.

IBB failing? You mean FAILED, as in it is done with zero progress.

 

Disingenuous at best. They must be including the Europe pilots in this count.

 

The ironic part about this is 75% of the pilot group voted yes for the contract, but now that the company wants a contract extension, everyone (including the negotiators) says no. If the contract is as good as they thought it was (sold it to be), why are they so adamantly opposed to an extension now?

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All it takes is a nice stroll through the union MB to see the comments made by the rank and file to see 75% voted yes. They looked at the payscale and because it favored captains, they mostly voted yes. Obviously some FOs had to vote yes too which is even more insane. But once the dust settled and the lack of work rule wording and contract language started showing its ugly head, the moral droppped and reality set in.

The scariest part of all this from a stability standpoint is that management wanted to extend this current contract with giving you guys nothing monetary in return. That’s a big red flag to their financial state IMHO.

 

Recent company communication says we are either meeting or beating financial estimates and goals.

I think the company is extremely effective at exploiting union dysfunction and inefficiency. Although AJ was a welcome face when he replaced our previous executive team, I do believe the "Flight Plan 2020" is probably very similar to what Sokol and Hansell envisioned.

Rumor has it the 2015 CBA was settled on because the company developed a lot of leverage and the union became concerned (if not scared). I'm a believer of this rumor because contracts like the 2015 agreement don't come to fruition when the union has a lot of leverage and bargaining power.

Unfortunately for the older guys, the current agreement achieved 20% raises while the new hires got 8% raises, different basing, downgrade language and seniority list contraction, small fleets and a QOL that is so poor compared to the large cabin stuff it might as well be a different company. It will be miraculous if you can get any solidarity with that...I wish them luck.

In my 15 years here, a few times I wonder if NJASAP will survive or if they have any leverage at all, this is one of those times. Things could get very ugly here very quickly with this age 65/IBI thing. I'm not sure what the best course of action is to make a majority happy...

 

I bet they are, while they are literally stretched as thin as they can go on pilots, and while they are paying them subpar pay and overworking them.

Down 300 pilots and and no major aircraft order will help any balance sheet, but if that's what it takes just to meet financial goals right now when everyone has disposable income, I wouldn't call that a win. No new airplanes, no expansion, no new owners or customers, no pilot hiring. Those aren't markers of a company hitting it out of the park, that is a company just trying to hang onto financial goals. If they hired they way they know they should, they would be in the red.