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thecfi32 05-06-2012 07:47 AM

For those of you wondering about the may class, if your in it I heard through the grape vine you should get confirmation sent to you by the 15th...that's all I know.

jsfBoat 05-06-2012 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by AcesHigh (Post 1179932)
Get whatever's in your panties out, wash rinse, and put them back on...He said something funny, I thought it was funny. I wasn't being sarcastic when I said he was a funny guy. He really said something funny.

I have yet to bash this thread. Never will. It's an interesting topic and I have the right to comment if I'd like.

I read someone wrote "you're funny" or something similar and being that I just watched Commando prior, I did the picture just as a joke. I also wasn't making a comment towards you about bashing, towards people in general. FYI, I don't wear panties, I go commando style.

jsfBoat 05-06-2012 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by sandrich (Post 1182157)
Glad to hear it. Had the same experience in Dec when I interviewed. You mentioned they showed you a video about expansion? Care to summarize what you saw? Just wondering if they've got stuff planned that us current Silver folk dont know about....

Seems to be the SOP around here, those that are on the front lines are left out in the dark until the last possible moment. I keep hearing rumors about the potential happenings, but until we have airplanes flying from some of these places, I take everything with a HUGE grain of salt, but I'm hopeful on some of them.


Originally Posted by Cruz5350 (Post 1182178)
I think we've seen just the tip of the iceberg with these folks imo.

I hope it's a good thing too, but for those of us in the first few classes I think we had some good timing.

ericthewellread 05-06-2012 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Xtain (Post 1181920)
Anyone go to the silver job fair thing yesterday? How did it go?

I was at the job fair 5/3/2012. Overall, a positive experience. Video was well made. All questions were answered. There was some discussion about new routes, which will be contingent on a mainline code share. It seems that there are more flying opportunities than their system can absorb. Hiring numbers that I recall, were up to 80 additional pilots by year end, if certain new routes materialize.

coryk 05-06-2012 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by ericthewellread (Post 1182826)
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I was at the job fair 5/3/2012. Overall, a positive experience. Video was well made. All questions were answered. There was some discussion about new routes, which will be contingent on a mainline code share. It seems that there are more flying opportunities than their system can absorb. Hiring numbers that I recall, were up to 80 additional pilots by year end, if certain new routes materialize.

I just doesn't make sense to me. Why do they think they can get an airline agreement with United/Delta when those airlines are trying to get rid of the routes/agreements with Colgan, etc?

What 05-06-2012 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by coryk (Post 1182848)
I just doesn't make sense to me. Why do they think they can get an airline agreement with United/Delta when those airlines are trying to get rid of the routes/agreements with Colgan, etc?

Because mainline outsourced the flying to Colgan, they paid Colgan to do the flying. With Silver it sounds like a code share where Sylver will assume all costs and share revenue with the mainline by the mainline selling tickets on Silver aircraft. Slapping a United code on that flight, there is a difference between code share and outsourcing to a regional!!!

SmitteyB 05-07-2012 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by What (Post 1182890)
Because mainline outsourced the flying to Colgan, they paid Colgan to do the flying. With Silver it sounds like a code share where Sylver will assume all costs and share revenue with the mainline by the mainline selling tickets on Silver aircraft. Slapping a United code on that flight, there is a difference between code share and outsourcing to a regional!!!

WRONG.

All Colgan SAAB flying was at-risk. Colgan set all ticket prices, paid for fuel, landing fees.

We couldn't make money with the cost of fuel.

Good luck.

What 05-07-2012 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by SmitteyB (Post 1183426)
WRONG.

All Colgan SAAB flying was at-risk. Colgan set all ticket prices, paid for fuel, landing fees.

We couldn't make money with the cost of fuel.

Good luck.

So Colgan sold the tickets on their website? Did Colgan fly their own colors or the mainlines. United, Delta and US Aiways outsourced the flyig to Colgan (the contract was at risk but still was outsourced). By the sounds of it Silver wants to fly their own colors and "code share" just like GLA!

SmitteyB 05-07-2012 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by What (Post 1183443)
So Colgan sold the tickets on their website? Did Colgan fly their own colors or the mainlines. United, Delta and US Aiways outsourced the flyig to Colgan (the contract was at risk but still was outsourced). By the sounds of it Silver wants to fly their own colors and "code share" just like GLA!

No - Colgan decided on where it wanted to fly and asked Airways, United for the codeshares. They marketed the flying as United Express.

Mainline partners did not outsource Saab flying.

gold 05-08-2012 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by What (Post 1182890)
Because mainline outsourced the flying to Colgan, they paid Colgan to do the flying.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the case of the Colgan saab flying, this is how is works.

Colgan operates as if they are an independent airline assuming all costs with the flying and the aircraft fly under the Colgan livery. Colgan then creates a basic code-share agreement with mainline United and US Airways. Us Airways and United use their code share to help sell tickets on the Colgan flights and thus United and US airways get a cut of the profits that Colgan makes from the code-share flights. This is different from what you would call Fee-for-departure or outsourced flying right? And, wouldn't this be a more respectable business model from a pilot perspective?


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