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DPApilot 07-20-2013 04:57 PM
Originally Posted by Temocil27 (Post 1448438)
In the battle between Silver Airways Regional Airline of the Year napkins and pilot compensation I think the napkins will always win. I'm curious to hear how much the FA's will get now. I'm hoping it doesn't equal or exceed FO pay!
$.50 less an hour.

Propspilot 07-20-2013 05:39 PM
Originally Posted by Temocil27 (Post 1448438)
In the battle between Silver Airways Regional Airline of the Year napkins and pilot compensation I think the napkins will always win. I'm curious to hear how much the FA's will get now. I'm hoping it doesn't equal or exceed FO pay!
I think the 1900 FO's are going to be sad...

ZBowFlyz 07-20-2013 05:53 PM
For anyone hoping they are going to give a raise- if they wanted to be on par with other airlines they would have to bump pay by 5-7 dollars/hr. with 250 pilots on staff that comes to a yearly total of $1,125,000 to $1,575,000.

That's just pilots based on the FO scale. So I admit it may not be precise but it's close enough. They might give a raise, but it will still be substandard. So I say keep dreamin' guys

Propspilot 07-20-2013 06:34 PM
Originally Posted by ZBowFlyz (Post 1448482)
For anyone hoping they are going to give a raise- if they wanted to be on par with other airlines they would have to bump pay by 5-7 dollars/hr. with 250 pilots on staff that comes to a yearly total of $1,125,000 to $1,575,000.

That's just pilots based on the FO scale. So I admit it may not be precise but it's close enough. They might give a raise, but it will still be substandard. So I say keep dreamin' guys
$5-$7 is unrealistic. We'll never get that much of a raise flying 34 seat Turbo Props in company that is attempting to expand. The bigger the iron the more you get paid. Now where I agree we deserve more we cant get crazy. Year two pay should be increased and that should follow up the scale. But if we don't grow then we're all wasting our time here.

flightmedic01 07-20-2013 07:02 PM
Silver Airways
 
Last time I checked, we're not growing. We're shrinking!

Propspilot 07-20-2013 07:11 PM
Originally Posted by flightmedic01 (Post 1448503)
Last time I checked, we're not growing. We're shrinking!
We all knew the 1900's were going away. This doesn't mean there aren't bigger things going on. Do you think VPC put all this money into Silver to just paint some planes and fly to the bahamas? They could have done that with the planes we had. These things don't happen over night.... We just launched Sabre last month!

DPApilot 07-20-2013 07:19 PM
Originally Posted by Propspilot (Post 1448507)
We all knew the 1900's were going away. This doesn't mean there aren't bigger things going on. Do you think VPC put all this money into Silver to just paint some planes and fly to the bahamas? They could have done that with the planes we had. These things don't happen over night.... We just launched Sabre last month!
How does the kook aide taste?

dmncnpilot 07-20-2013 08:23 PM
Originally Posted by Salukipilot4590 (Post 1448213)
See...they should have fully right seat qual'd us DECs to help out while the FOs are out doing their ATP thing.

It'd help out!
What? You're not satisfied with being a DEC but you want to fly FO also? Why not let the ATP qualified FOs that want to get JM'd get JM'd or the RSV's fly a little? FO's get crap money to begin with and JM pay wouldn't hurt either...Don't you think that's better?

ctab5060X 07-20-2013 08:26 PM
Originally Posted by DPApilot (Post 1448511)
Originally Posted by Propspilot (Post 1448507)
We all knew the 1900's were going away. This doesn't mean there aren't bigger things going on. Do you think VPC put all this money into Silver to just paint some planes and fly to the bahamas? They could have done that with the planes we had. These things don't happen over night.... We just launched Sabre last month!
How does the kook aide taste?
Hate to say it, but I think Propspilot may be more right than wrong here.

Wouldn't say it is drinking kool aide either. I personally think it is only reasonable and logical to expect the investment company that owns Silver to continue to grow the airline as we are currently no where near juicy enough to sell off.

I think they learned a lot last year with the rapid expansion of the Saab fleet and tackling Sabre pretty much at the same time. I honestly think (and I could be wrong) that Silver is in a much needed lull period before the next phase of growth. When or what that will be... who knows??

dmncnpilot 07-20-2013 08:41 PM
Originally Posted by EatMyPropwash (Post 1445734)
this makes me wonder about future captain upgrades... I haven't had honest time to read the whole CBA contract, but... does it mention about an order to captain upgrade, or is it just on an as needed basis depending on who bids for it? Reason I ask is... the people that have the type (like myself in a few weeks) don't need to do the ATP or PIC ride... it's just a recurrent/transiton type event that won't take nearly as long as someone doing the whole transition course, which saves $$$. So, financially if I'm understanding the captain upgrade right, it'd be cheaper ($$$ wise here) to upgrade someone who already has their type, and just got 1,000hrs 121/135 than someone who has 1,000+ but no type... I know Silver is all about the $$$ pinching.

You're kidding right? Please tell me you don't think this way. Your post seems a bit opportunistic.


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