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03-19-2017 | 09:29 AM

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AMF flow or bridge to UPS?

I've heard vague rumors of some sort of flow between AMF and UPS that have come from AMF management. Now I'm hearing rumors from the UPS side that they are working on some type of system where candidates will be selected by UPS and go to AMF to build time and experience and when ready (assuming 1500hrs and ATP) will then "flow" over to UPS.

This would be beneficial to both sides.

03-19-2017 | 10:13 AM

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I doubt UPS are hurting to fill their classes. I noticed UPS will be @ the April 21st job fair in Las Vegas, all slots are sold out.

03-19-2017 | 10:16 AM

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I doubt UPS are hurting to fill their classes. I noticed UPS will be @ the April 21st job fair in Las Vegas, all slots are sold out.

That means nothing. This is about securing future candidates.

03-19-2017 | 12:41 PM

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That means nothing. This is about securing future candidates.

They don't need to secure anything, because they've never had problem finding pilots to begin with.

03-19-2017 | 12:46 PM

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This would be beneficial to both sides.

Pretty sure that's a one sided benefit.

03-19-2017 | 01:46 PM

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Pretty sure that's a one sided benefit.

Why do you think that? Are you saying that AMF pilots aren't good enough?

03-19-2017 | 02:13 PM

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Why do you think that? Are you saying that AMF pilots aren't good enough?

Anybody doggin' single pilot in a Metro or 1900 or crewed in a Brasilia would easily adapt to our operation.

Those pilots, along with ACC, MAC and other contractor ops, should absolutely get consideration.

But what would UPS stand to gain via a "flow" through AMF? Available supply of qualified (defined solely as 1000 TPIC) applicants isn't an issue. Such a setup would help shore up UPS' contractor feed, and is probably a bigger concern than future pilots for Browntails.

03-19-2017 | 02:22 PM

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Why do you think that? Are you saying that AMF pilots aren't good enough?

Those are your words not mine. The simple fact is UPS doesn't think civilian turboprop time is good enough. Ask at a job fair. They tell pilots with nothing but TP time they need to get some jet time before UPS will consider them.

As Boiler stated, there are plenty of qualified applicants out there.

03-19-2017 | 02:50 PM

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This may be a way for UPS to help AMF recruit and retain feeder pilots.

03-19-2017 | 02:59 PM

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This may be a way for UPS to help AMF recruit and retain feeder pilots.

Bingo...AMF has trouble recruiting pilots, UPS needs AMF for it's sub contracted feeder network business plan to work. Set up a feed and hire the same number of pilots from AMF as you would have without the feeder agreement. But Bingo, it's easier for AMF to fill positions.