I guess flying the metro wouldn't be bad since you don't pay for training. But what would be bad about paying for the rating IF the company reimburses you over a period of time? I totally agree about not paying for rating, but if it is reimbursed is there any harm done?

 

You pay 7.5k (which is half of the training cost). They don't reimburse you for that cost.
Don't expect for a lot from Mark. You probably be given him your resume and never hear from him again (Unless you come with a 7.5k check in your pocket....mmm....not sure about that part either ;-) )

 

Roger that. If they won't reimburse then that does make a huge difference, I'm not going to shell out that money if I won't see it again. Thanks for for the information.

 

While I have not paid for training, there is no debate it does excelerate a career. Furthur, comparing it to performing struck work is not a fair comparison and only, in my opinion, minimizes the latter.

It is simply a personal business decision.

 

I guess that is old info I had about the reimbursement.

 

You sir are screwed in the head.... it is that type of thinking that has led to the demise of our industry. You don't deserve any type of flying job with that attitude. You "shopped around" for jobs? Uhhhuuuhh.... more like you submitted your application hoping to recieve a call back which obviously you did. Sierra West is just looking to abuse those who are willing to take it.... hope you studied the Metro very well.... lord knows that SW's MX is lacking.
Well.... good luck to you sir and I hope you look back in a year or two and realize how far off the mark you really were.

 

I find it funny for a guy who did some internship flying in a metro slamming me on my way of thinking. You should be paid a full salary and not internship salary as a commercial pilot. Your internship is what brings this industry down. Too many guys like you willing to work for free or at reduced rate in hope for that multi turbine pic time. That internship metro position should belong to a "qualified" furloughes who "deserve" it. But then again, in a free market, you take what you can get. Those who can't will complain and whine about it. I don't think my thinking has anything to do with the aviation industry going down the drain. Heck if it did I would have a lot of leverage power. Think of how much money I can get get if i can bring the industry down to its knee with my thinking. "United Airline, you will give me some free tickets or else I will think negative about your company and you will suffer". But seriously, who are you to tell me I don't deserve an aviation job. You sir don't deserve any flying job either. You are too quick to make a judgment on someone based on a few posts you read on in this forums. You shouldn't be a allowed in the cockpit either with that kind of attitude. I can imagine you shutting down the wrong engine in an airplane just because you're too "quick" to make a decision without looking at the whole picture.

 

Here we go again with the flight instructing scheme. Flight instructing is not for everyone. Just because everyone and their grandpas flight instruct, doesn't mean that's the only way to a flying job. Everyone told me to go flight instruct when I had only 320/9, heck I even got laughed at for applying with only 320/9. But hey that didn't stop me from applying. I shopped around and got on with a 135 cargo company flying turbine. I would be screwed right now if I listen to the infinite wisdom of many dudes on this forums.

Also, i don't know how you would call paying 7500 PFJ. IBC Airways is a small company. It is possible that they don't have enough cash to actually send someone out for simulator training hence you have to pay the 7500 and sign the 2 years contract. It might not cost 7500 for the sim but hey it's part of doing business. They're not just going to do it for free. Why not make a few bucks off that. That's just the way it works. I would do the same thing to if I run a business like that. A lot of you might think that's wrong but put yourself in the business owner's shoes, you have bills to pay, a business to run, are you going to give things out for free while the guy next door is charging people for it?

So anyway, I'm sure there are a lot of furlough guys out there that are more qualified for a turbine job than me but that's not the point. In a free market, it's not what you deserve but what you can bargain and get. Heck i think i deserve to fly a jumbo jet but hey that's not going to happen. I came here as an immigrant, didn't speak a word of Engrish, worked my way through college, pay for all my ratings, and got my own job. I think i deserve to fly a jumbo jet than those rich silver spoon kids who got everything paid for. Now who wants to give me a 747 FO position because I "deserve" it?

 

You're right, it is not for everyone. Sometimes flight instructing is not greener pastures either. Watching someone else do turns around a point in a 152 isn't really great resume material. Take some chances and enjoy the journey. Now back to the the topic of IBC...

 

I have never done any type of internship much less pay for any training beyond getting my basic ratings. I was a paid employee of Merlin Airways... I made more as an SIC than your PIC's make. I used to think like you and I am certain you will also change your way of thinking... the change will come with experience and time. My attitude is such that you are a professional pilot... you should be paid as such... you should be treated with more respect than a 7-eleven employee. My attitude is that the people and freight we fly deserve and expect an experienced professional pilot.
I can understand and relate to the fact that you chose not to instruct.... and I will not "slam" you for that because neither did I. But before you starting popping off about my experience and history maybe you should find out what my background is... I try to make myself available as a resource as I am sure the 50+ who have PM'ed me about flying in the caribbean can attest... but I find it disheartening that the new guys in aviation think that it is ok and just to pay for training.
Rant over...