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Old 09-25-2015, 08:47 PM
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If you see a good job go for it. I've had a subscription to climbto350 for almost a year now and I personally haven't seen anything worth making a move.

But what makes this place worthy of staying? Long term. Look at a job and compare where it could lead with where you are now with your current career trajectory. You are topped out dude. What you have now is as good as its ever gonna get. Flying a crappy turboprop for slightly over the poverty line? Are you going to fly at this place till retirement? I'd live in a cardboard box for a year of that's what it takes to move on! Long term this place is miserable. Looking at climb350 there are a TON of gigs better than this one. You might have to move, but you chose the transportation industry. You have been posting in the AMF thread since 2011. I guarantee you have the time to move on. Why are you still here? Seriously, why are you still flying a s*it turboprop for s*it pay when there are jobs which pay more and have a better QOL? Look at 5 or 10 years down the road. I guarantee you the folks that leave will both have more $$ and more time at home than you ever will, if you stay here.


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Old 09-25-2015, 09:28 PM
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If you see a good job go for it. I've had a subscription to climbto350 for almost a year now and I personally haven't seen anything worth making a move.
Then you don't understand the industry in which you work very well.
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Old 09-26-2015, 05:06 AM
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Old 09-26-2015, 07:48 AM
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Go ahead, make some suggestions, I'm listening.
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Old 09-26-2015, 07:59 AM
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Go ahead, make some suggestions, I'm listening.
Dude by all means stay there if you want. It just defies logic. It would be like a lawyer making a career as a public defender. Nobody should have to hold your hand and spoon feed you reasons why you should leave or where you should leave to. If you don't value yourself enough to know you're worth more, why the hell would I try to convince you? You're an adult...
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Old 09-26-2015, 08:26 AM
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No, seriously, make some suggestions. I may say no, but I'm not trying to argue with you here, I just want to know if there's something I have overlooked.
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Old 09-26-2015, 10:38 AM
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But what makes this place worthy of staying? Long term. Look at a job and compare where it could lead with where you are now with your current career trajectory. You are topped out dude. What you have now is as good as its ever gonna get. Flying a crappy turboprop for slightly over the poverty line? Are you going to fly at this place till retirement? I'd live in a cardboard box for a year of that's what it takes to move on! Long term this place is miserable. Looking at climb350 there are a TON of gigs better than this one. You might have to move, but you chose the transportation industry. You have been posting in the AMF thread since 2011. I guarantee you have the time to move on. Why are you still here? Seriously, why are you still flying a s*it turboprop for s*it pay when there are jobs which pay more and have a better QOL? Look at 5 or 10 years down the road. I guarantee you the folks that leave will both have more $$ and more time at home than you ever will, if you stay here.


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Old 09-26-2015, 11:01 AM
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Ok, here's a suggestion. Daily rate on a King Air is somewhere in the 400-600 range. Top tier pay on the Metro is 60K base + 6K turbine retention. 66K/ year. 52 weeks a year X 6 days a week is 312 days worked, many of them 12+hours. Let's use 500/day as a contract king air rate. For 312 days of work, you will bill for 156K a year. Sure you won't actually contract 6 days a week, so for comparisons sake let's say you want to keep your pay roughly equal. 66K divided by 500 a day is 132 days worked, or roughly 2.5 days worked per week. Throw in an extra few days a month and you will make up for the employer provided benefits like healthcare. Also, if you fly something other than a king air you will make more than 500/day.

So, would you rather work 6 days a week for 66K, or 3 days a week for 66K?


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Old 09-26-2015, 11:30 AM
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I don't know that I can have a serious conversation with you. Working 6 days and quoting base pay, maybe if you are outstation based (which is realistically 5 nights).
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Old 09-26-2015, 11:40 AM
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You can stop telling me how much I make, I am very familiar with that figure and it is more than what you are implying.
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