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Old 06-21-2017 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BravoPapa
Or Atlanta?
Possibly!
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Old 06-21-2017 | 01:16 PM
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Other than with UPS, is AMF looking to sign additional flow thru agreements?
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Old 06-21-2017 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Omnipotent
Other than with UPS, is AMF looking to sign additional flow thru agreements?
Hi, Omnipotent!

Aside from our current Flow Through agreements with Frontier, Allegiant, and Omni Air (and of course our Gateway Program with UPS), other Flow Throughs are definitely in the works. Nothing set in stone yet, but we are certainly working to provide these defined career paths for our current and future pilots. They are awesome agreements!
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Old 06-21-2017 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by FreightDogs
Hi, Omnipotent!

Aside from our current Flow Through agreements with Frontier, Allegiant, and Omni Air (and of course our Gateway Program with UPS), other Flow Throughs are definitely in the works. Nothing set in stone yet, but we are certainly working to provide these defined career paths for our current and future pilots. They are awesome agreements!
Thanks for responding. With all due respect, except for UPS, the other airlines you have flow throughs with are true bottom feeders. When are you going to sign agreements with quality airlines that people actually want to work for?

How many AMF pilots have flowed to Frontier, Allegiant and Omni?
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Old 06-21-2017 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by FreightDogs
Hi, Omnipotent!

Aside from our current Flow Through agreements with Frontier, Allegiant, and Omni Air (and of course our Gateway Program with UPS), other Flow Throughs are definitely in the works. Nothing set in stone yet, but we are certainly working to provide these defined career paths for our current and future pilots. They are awesome agreements!

Please please please stop calling them flow through agreements, they do not meet the industry definition of flow. I would hate to see new hires get the wrong impression.
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Old 06-21-2017 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetlife
Please please please stop calling them flow through agreements, they do not meet the industry definition of flow. I would hate to see new hires get the wrong impression.
What do you call them? And what's the "industry" definition of flow?
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Old 06-21-2017 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Omnipotent
What do you call them? And what's the "industry" definition of flow?
A flow is where the company takes a mandatory number of people by seniority, from another company. No interview, no other prerequisite to meet other than when your seniority number comes up, you are in the next indoc. AMF has nothing like that. They are preferential hiring agreements, that's it.
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Old 06-21-2017 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by FreightDogs
Hi, there!

Definitely!
The schedule for our ONT routes is typically Monday through Friday, morning to evening.
Typically, you'll have three legs; the legs for ONT range from one to eight depending on the route.
Aircraft out of ONT: Beech 99, Beech 1900, and SA227.
At the moment, we don't have any ACP openings, but will likely open them again later this summer.
We also have a BUR base close by!

Feel free to ask any other questions you have!

I'm slightly confused by the 1 to 8 part there. Are you saying depending on route you'd fly between 1 and 8 legs a day, with an average of 3?

Burbank is close to ONT, but thanks to SoCal traffic it's a significantly longer drive, making ONT the preferred choice for sure! Thanks a lot for being here and answering everyone's questions. I'm sure I'm not the only one that appreciates it.
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Old 06-21-2017 | 09:05 PM
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Also curious about the pay for new ACP hires and the opportunities for advancement/raises with time.
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Old 06-22-2017 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Hand Commander
Curious as to why the UPS Gateway Program hasn't been formally announced to the pilot group. Nothing on the pilot portal and no company memos. Hmmm...
It doesn't directly affect the current pilots as it is a UPS program for their interns to hire on here to build time. There is currently no way for a current AMF pilot to move into the program. But the hope (and what AMF is pushing for) is that it will lead to a program for pilots who come direct to AMF to move through to UPS at some point in the future.
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