Sounds like AMF worded it deliberately that way as bait to lure newbies thinking that they would "flow" to the partner airline after putting in the required time.

AMF had to do something to attract people. The recruiters even call it a flow through (as seen on here) but isn't even close to a flow.

We are not calling our UPS agreement a flow.
We have repeatedly on this thread referred to it as a Gateway Program only.
The other three we are calling a flow per each agreement signed by both parties.

It's amazing how all of these programs aren't plastered all over the website in detail. If you have to apply and interview, not a flow. Of any of those programs, is there any where an AMF pilot just magically gets put into an indoc class without having to do a bunch of stuff first? Don't you have to interview?

Sorry for the confusion!
Most of the routes have 3 legs each day.
But there are two routes that have 1 leg (like a reposition) on the first and last days of the route. And there is one route that has 7-8 legs each day M-F.

I bet! I've heard some horror stories about the CA traffic. So ONT it is!

Thank you so much for your kind words! :)

Great question!
While the pilot is an FO in the Accelerated Captain Program, their pay is the same as all of our FOs at $31,000/year. It will take you less than a year to get up to 1,000 TT and become a restricted Captain (right now some of our ACPs are upgrading after just 3 months in the right seat).
When the pilot gets to the restricted Captain portion, they'll get regular 99 pay at $44,000/year. When they become an unrestricted Captain, they'll get regular 99 pay at $44,000/year.
We are currently looking at increasing the pay for the BE99 Captains; nothing set in stone yet, but we see an increase in the near future.
After that, there are defined preferred hour times to get into the BE1900, SA227, and EMB120. With those, of course, come pay raises.
Hopefully that all made sense! Let me know if you have any other questions!

I think the answer is somewhere in the middle. There is an interview somewhere in the mentoring programs, but the point is it can be nailed down early in the process, and the class date given when the other requirements are met. I recall the discussion in the conference call, and agree that would be nice to see that written in detail. If pilots are going to devote 2 or 3 years of their career to a specific goal, it is good to nail down the details of what they can expect.

There is not any agreement that I am aware of, where a company takes X number of AMF pilots per month that want to go, by their DOH. All of them are preferential interviews with the AMF CP recommendation, and a host of other boxes that need to be checked, and that's fine. Come to AMF, spend several years, meet all the requirements and do that if that's what you want. Calling anything there a flow through is dangerous, because most equate that to airline flow, and it is nothing like that.

AMF just seems to never be able to really get things right. It almost seems as though these programs are to get people talking about AMF, but when the details of the program want to be known, that is where the buck stops. The UPS program does nothing for AMF pilots so that's whatever, but what about Frontier, Omni, Allegiant etc? How are these programs not pushed hard and the details immediately available? The careful discretion by recruiters is a familiar cultural stigma that still exists there. Walk into UND, tell their flight instructors that if they go to AMF, Frontier will hire them, and walk out hoping that does enough to get them on property before they get the details. Very weird way to operate.

So you're telling me that if I were a young pilot and I hired on to a regional airline that has a flow through to American or some other big carrier that when my seniority hits they have to bring me on no matter if I am an outstanding pilot or just average or even a total screw up? No matter what anyone in their current management says about me? Doesn't sound like a good way to run an airline or any other business.

That is a different argument. The point is that AMF does not have flow through agreements.

The point in which you bring up is one I agree with, and is one that has been brought up by the legacies that still have flow, which to my knowledge is only American. A street hire at American right now has several thousand hours of jet PIC, a degree, a multitude of other qualifications, and they are sitting next to a person who didn't interview, may or may not have a degree, and is probably not as equally qualified.