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Old 03-09-2021, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by QRH Bingo View Post
A few things to consider; FO pay will be the same as your UPS intern pay (all the pay scales are on their website). Only the Brasilia is a 2 crew requirement so if you are put into the 1900 or Metro as an FO, that time will likely not count toward your ATP cert later on.

I believe the SIC PDP program now allows for that time to count towards the ATP mins. Obviously you’d have to be in the program and flying with the correct instructor captains. One of the newer 135 ops specs
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Old 03-25-2021, 05:02 PM
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Anybody know if Ameriflight will start hiring BE99 PIC's in the near future?
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Old 03-25-2021, 06:26 PM
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Anybody know if Ameriflight will start hiring BE99 PIC's in the near future?
Absolutely. We have 4 in training from the March Indoc class and 5 slated in the April class. Contact recruiting and get your stuff in.
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Old 03-26-2021, 06:33 AM
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Will do, Thanks!
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Old 03-27-2021, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by QRH Bingo View Post
I'm sorry I cannot help you with some of the specific hiring questions to start the process but I can at least give you an idea of what to expect while in the program.
You get hired on with UPS as an intern and work for them for at least 1 year (might be 2) and get paid $15/hr I think. During that time, you can build your flight hours so that you meet Ameriflight's FO minimum (500TT, 75 instrument, etc..). Then you work at Ameriflight as an FO (unless you meet PIC Mins) where they put you on the Brasilia, 1900 or Metro. When you meet PIC Mins you go into the Beech 99, then ideally you upgrade into a typed aircraft (1900 or Metro). I believe the minimum time required to be at Ameriflight is 3 years and then you get priority hiring back at UPS, it's not an automatic hire so keep your record clean.

A few things to consider; FO pay will be the same as your UPS intern pay (all the pay scales are on their website). Only the Brasilia is a 2 crew requirement so if you are put into the 1900 or Metro as an FO, that time will likely not count toward your ATP cert later on.
Hi QRH Bingo, thanks a lot for your comment! Sounds like a few years' patience will be needed before UPS hiring. I knew there is a Path II option which takes shorter period of time. But seems like that is for someone with more than adequate flight hours such as an existing airline pilot.
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Old 03-27-2021, 07:20 AM
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just remember.... flying a 100+ hrs a month as a copilot in a metro if you get into the charter department will get you into a be-99 far faste,r, thus earning higher pay and building PIC time faster than 30-50 hrs a month in an emb-120 as a copilot ...but flying the emb-120 does check off a box for multi-crew aircraft if I recall correctly.
Like in all paths, sometimes you must look closely, and weight pro's and con's. Nothing is set in stone as the BEST route, and the needs of both the company and YOUR flexibility will play a role.
Keep an open mind, and understand that flying cargo is not like a typical airline job you can be commuter ....It works for some (willing to move a couple times, usually with each equipment change), but not others. (Family situations are most common, sometimes related to a spouse's job, etc).
Thank you for the sincere suggestions, ZippyNH! I will take each one of these into consideration while choosing my career path. I met a FO from United Express said he's been waiting in Q for a while now to get an interview with a cargo airline. Is there really such a long line for pilot candidates during/after the pandemic?
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Old 03-27-2021, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by TeamSasquatch View Post
I believe the SIC PDP program now allows for that time to count towards the ATP mins. Obviously you’d have to be in the program and flying with the correct instructor captains. One of the newer 135 ops specs
Well noted. Thank you TeamSasquatch!
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Old 03-27-2021, 04:30 PM
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Well noted. Thank you TeamSasquatch!
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Old 04-03-2021, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by frmrbuffdrvr View Post
Absolutely. We have 4 in training from the March Indoc class and 5 slated in the April class. Contact recruiting and get your stuff in.
Hi, will the BE99 instructor position afford me the same pathway and opportunities to become a part of the UPS Pathway program versus people who go to Ameriflight as CA or FOs? Thanks
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Old 04-03-2021, 11:33 AM
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Hi, will the BE99 instructor position afford me the same pathway and opportunities to become a part of the UPS Pathway program versus people who go to Ameriflight as CA or FOs? Thanks
I'm assuming you are talking about hiring direct into the training department as an instructor?

It should. If anything it might even give you a leg up since you will have time as an instructor and then possibly a check airman. You will still need to fulfill other requirements, such as transition into a typed airplane at some point. But it definitely wouldn't be a hindrance.
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