Cape Air
10-02-2013, 04:08 AM
#1042
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Originally Posted by JohnnyG
I've been trying to read about this company. What are the odds of getting an ATR FO position for a guy with an ATP but no turbine time?
10-02-2013, 12:06 PM
#1043
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Posts: 57
Originally Posted by rocketman3746
There's not exactly an abundance of aircraft sitting around for training. Might be about a weeks worth of training, but it's spread out due to aircraft availability. Plan to spend some down time at the Holiday Inn! It's a fantastic company to work for though! I will miss it when I leave...
10-02-2013, 01:25 PM
#1044
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Originally Posted by JohnnyG
I've been trying to read about this company. What are the odds of getting an ATR FO position for a guy with an ATP but no turbine time?
10-02-2013, 05:04 PM
#1045
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Position: E175 CRJ
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Originally Posted by ackattacker
That, my friend, is why Cape Air is still around after 24 years and just about every other fly-by-night 135 outfit has gone under. You have to actually give a "hoot" about safety. You'd be astounded at the washout rate from that 4-6 weeks of training. I'm sure those washouts got jobs flying 135 elsewhere with 5-6 days of training and a hearty "good luck out there!"
10-02-2013, 05:28 PM
#1046
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Originally Posted by pilotdream90
Here are current minimums as posted on their page carreer section https://www.capeair.com/pilotjobs/index.html
10-03-2013, 04:23 AM
#1047
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Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Pitot heat, what's to eat?
Posts: 392
Originally Posted by jrsx99
What is the approximate washout rate for training? Also, where are people leaving for after cape air? I have been giving some very, very, serious thought to Cape, but the whole no-turbine time kinda makes me hesitate. Is this stupid on my part?
No, the whole no-turbine thing is certainly something to think about. You have to know your priorities. You probably will not go straight to a major airline from Cape Air without turbine time. People have left Cape Air straight for a major, but all that I'm aware of had some turbine time either from Cape or elsewhere. Most people without turbine time end up leaving Cape for a regional, or some for private jets or fractionals and even cargo outfits. Keep in mind, if you're willing to move to Guam, it is possible to get turbine time at Cape Air.
There's also the JetBlue bridge program, where folks do end up at JetBlue without any previous turbine time. But that's kind of a special exemption (don't get me started), in general JetBlue and most other major airlines won't look at guys without turbine time.
10-03-2013, 07:02 AM
#1048
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Position: Jets and Props
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Originally Posted by jrsx99
What is the approximate washout rate for training? Also, where are people leaving for after cape air? I have been giving some very, very, serious thought to Cape, but the whole no-turbine time kinda makes me hesitate. Is this stupid on my part?
Originally Posted by ackattacker
I don't actually know the washout rate, I just know it happens frequently enough, and I heard tell that the reason for the expansion of the FO program a few years back was partly a response to that. They wanted guys to have some more experience in the Cape Air system before taking their PIC checkride, since they really won't pass you to go out and fly PIC if they think you're not ready. And too many guys weren't ready.
No, the whole no-turbine thing is certainly something to think about. You have to know your priorities. You probably will not go straight to a major airline from Cape Air without turbine time. People have left Cape Air straight for a major, but all that I'm aware of had some turbine time either from Cape or elsewhere. Most people without turbine time end up leaving Cape for a regional, or some for private jets or fractionals and even cargo outfits. Keep in mind, if you're willing to move to Guam, it is possible to get turbine time at Cape Air.
There's also the JetBlue bridge program, where folks do end up at JetBlue without any previous turbine time. But that's kind of a special exemption (don't get me started), in general JetBlue and most other major airlines won't look at guys without turbine time.
No, the whole no-turbine thing is certainly something to think about. You have to know your priorities. You probably will not go straight to a major airline from Cape Air without turbine time. People have left Cape Air straight for a major, but all that I'm aware of had some turbine time either from Cape or elsewhere. Most people without turbine time end up leaving Cape for a regional, or some for private jets or fractionals and even cargo outfits. Keep in mind, if you're willing to move to Guam, it is possible to get turbine time at Cape Air.
There's also the JetBlue bridge program, where folks do end up at JetBlue without any previous turbine time. But that's kind of a special exemption (don't get me started), in general JetBlue and most other major airlines won't look at guys without turbine time.
10-03-2013, 07:52 AM
#1049
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Joined APC: Oct 2012
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[QUOTE=cubbies4life;1495590]4/14 washed out of my class
Any idea exactly why those people washed out?
I start ground school on Monday and curious how the whole training is going be.
Any idea exactly why those people washed out?
I start ground school on Monday and curious how the whole training is going be.
Last edited by Raffi4; 10-03-2013 at 08:06 AM.
10-03-2013, 09:45 AM
#1050
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[QUOTE=Raffi4;1495615]
Stop thinking about it. Go in there and study. You will have a lot of downtime at the Holiday Inn...do not abuse it.
Know your flows, procedures, and most importantly: don't **** anyone off.
Originally Posted by cubbies4life
4/14 washed out of my class
Any idea exactly why those people washed out?
I start ground school on Monday and curious how the whole training is going be.
Any idea exactly why those people washed out?
I start ground school on Monday and curious how the whole training is going be.
Stop thinking about it. Go in there and study. You will have a lot of downtime at the Holiday Inn...do not abuse it.
Know your flows, procedures, and most importantly: don't **** anyone off.
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