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Old 02-21-2011 | 08:12 AM
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Re-read that article, there is a 10 seat stipulation.
You are correct about the 10 seat stipulation, which is included in the Senate bill that passed last week. However, a number of members of Congress (John McCain, to name drop) are pushing for complete termination of the EAS program in order to allow for local governments to fund and control programs themselves. Not sure that that push will have any effect since the Senate was pretty convincing in passing their bill (89-8), but stay tuned!
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Old 02-21-2011 | 08:15 AM
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What I've heard is that we're going to tell AA that we're getting rid of the FOs, with or without their (AA's) approval, and it's up to them whether they'd like to continue the codeshare at that point. Basically, we'd be telling AA to shove the FO requirement. It sounds like the codeshare isn't too important to us
Something we should have done in the first place when they told us how to run our airline.
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Old 02-21-2011 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by BelowMins
Something we should have done in the first place when they told us how to run our airline.
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FOs out there are a great group, but they are leaving for the most part and it's time to fly the 402 like we do in the rest of the system
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Old 02-21-2011 | 11:27 AM
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Why the interest in the airline (Island) next door all of a sudden?
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Old 02-21-2011 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by clipperskipper
Why the interest in the airline (Island) next door all of a sudden?
Who's interest?
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Old 02-22-2011 | 08:40 AM
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Had a meeting in Hyannis and conference call with some of the Gateway guys this morning with JetBlue. Pouring the Blue juice about how if we stay at Cape Air, we could end up at Jetblue with 0 turbine time after we make 3000TT.

FOs also got an email from the COO begging them not to leave. Basically saying that while there's a lot of jet jobs out there, you can get to Jetblue from here.
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Old 02-22-2011 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Crism
Had a meeting in Hyannis and conference call with some of the Gateway guys this morning with JetBlue. Pouring the Blue juice about how if we stay at Cape Air, we could end up at Jetblue with 0 turbine time after we make 3000TT.

FOs also got an email from the COO begging them not to leave. Basically saying that while there's a lot of jet jobs out there, you can get to Jetblue from here.
If they want to make good on that, why not hire all of the guys and gals who have been here for two, three, four years and easily have 3000TT?

And if it's only for the Gateway folks, then what is the point of staying at Cape Air for the other 100 or so pilots that aren't "Cape Air for life?" Since you can't get to a Major without turbine time (or a ton of luck) why not just go to Cape, get enough time to meet the mins at any regional, then pick and choose?

IMHO, Cape Air/Jetblue need to make good on their "partnership" or we are going to be real short staffed, REAL quick.
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Old 02-22-2011 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by vtbvtdk
If they want to make good on that, why not hire all of the guys and gals who have been here for two, three, four years and easily have 3000TT?

And if it's only for the Gateway folks, then what is the point of staying at Cape Air for the other 100 or so pilots that aren't "Cape Air for life?" Since you can't get to a Major without turbine time (or a ton of luck) why not just go to Cape, get enough time to meet the mins at any regional, then pick and choose?

IMHO, Cape Air/Jetblue need to make good on their "partnership" or we are going to be real short staffed, REAL quick.
You've got that right. And that's exactly what the FOs concerns are at this point. I know you've seen how disgruntled some of them are out here.

Jetblue guys tried to sound excited about getting the first round through sometime soon though. A few guys are coming up on their 3k fairly quickly now. However, everyone should remember one thing, it's a GUARANTEED INTERVIEW. "It's yours to lose" is what was being said. I'd be ****ed at myself if I went through the whole program then didn't make it.
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Old 02-22-2011 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Crism
Jetblue guys tried to sound excited about getting the first round through sometime soon though. A few guys are coming up on their 3k fairly quickly now. However, everyone should remember one thing, it's a GUARANTEED INTERVIEW. "It's yours to lose" is what was being said. I'd be ****ed at myself if I went through the whole program then didn't make it.
Yeah...when I left, that JetBlue program was a source of a lot of heartburn within the pilot group. Basically, it revolved around new FOs showing up in the crew rooms jabbering on about how they're going to JetBlue soon, when guys/gals with a proven record of solid PIC experience couldn't get looked at.

I wish you guys the best of luck, however.
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Old 02-23-2011 | 03:33 AM
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Relax. Every legacy and major carrier has hired C-402 Captains in the past, weather it was from Cape Air, PBA, or Gull Air. Many had no turbine time, most had around 2500TT.
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