Cape air studies replacement for 402's
05-06-2009, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Ewfflyer
Interesting design, I didn't know of anyone using those engines yet. Wonder what list-price is, didn't see it.
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The one turboprop certified since last year’s new turboprops report was the Vulcanair A-Viator. The Italian company bought the type certificate for the Partenavia AP68-TP600 Viator in the 1980s and now has put an updated version of it back into limited production. The first $1.9 million A-Viator twin-engine turboprop was delivered this summer, one of only three Vulcanair plans to produce this year. The aircraft has been updated with Rolls-Royce 250-B17C engines and glass cockpit displays. The cabin can be configured for commuter, cargo, combi, medevac and parachute jumping operations.
The one turboprop certified since last year’s new turboprops report was the Vulcanair A-Viator. The Italian company bought the type certificate for the Partenavia AP68-TP600 Viator in the 1980s and now has put an updated version of it back into limited production. The first $1.9 million A-Viator twin-engine turboprop was delivered this summer, one of only three Vulcanair plans to produce this year. The aircraft has been updated with Rolls-Royce 250-B17C engines and glass cockpit displays. The cabin can be configured for commuter, cargo, combi, medevac and parachute jumping operations.
05-06-2009, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 402Fanatic
We are talking about $95,000,000. Talk about a boatload of money.
But I have to say that the ability to carry 9 passengers and have turboprop reliability might be nice. But again, I don't see how a turboprop twin could handle very short flights. I guess Cape Air should buy a couple to test them out first.
05-06-2009, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by HectorD
1.9million x 50 (I am guessing that is more or less the number or 402s cape air operates).
We are talking about $95,000,000. Talk about a boatload of money.
But I have to say that the ability to carry 9 passengers and have turboprop reliability might be nice. But again, I don't see how a turboprop twin could handle very short flights. I guess Cape Air should buy a couple to test them out first.
We are talking about $95,000,000. Talk about a boatload of money.
But I have to say that the ability to carry 9 passengers and have turboprop reliability might be nice. But again, I don't see how a turboprop twin could handle very short flights. I guess Cape Air should buy a couple to test them out first.
Pardon me for being ignorant on this issue, but why would short flights be brutal on a turboprop. Isn't that what the Caravan was designed for and handles these hops pretty well? I've never worked around a Caravan so I don't have any idea. I know the fuel burn would be on average more for short hops. But I figured they'd be more reliable in any operating circumstance than a piston.
05-06-2009, 07:04 PM
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Just some food for thought. It was mentioned that all 402's are at least 23 years old or older. True. I know there's not many left, but, there are still DC-3's still flying out there that are 70 years old with well over 50k on the airframes. Oh, nevermind.
05-06-2009, 08:49 PM
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How about an aftermarket modification of a King Air 200? Buy used King air's, send them to get the STC done, and have a 13 passenger plane that can haul some luggage in it.
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05-07-2009, 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by wizepilot
Just some food for thought. It was mentioned that all 402's are at least 23 years old or older. True. I know there's not many left, but, there are still DC-3's still flying out there that are 70 years old with well over 50k on the airframes. Oh, nevermind.
Eitherway, DC3s where built to be strong as a tank.
05-07-2009, 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 402Fanatic
Pardon me for being ignorant on this issue, but why would short flights be brutal on a turboprop.
Originally Posted by Mitragorz
From what I understand, turbine engines are overhauled every so many cycles, as opposed to pistons which are overhauled every so many hours. The short flights would be a killer.
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