L-3/Dynamic/Avenge
10-15-2020, 02:37 PM
#661
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Joined APC: Nov 2018
Posts: 3
tips/tricks/suggestions
Anyone have any tips, and or comments on how to land a ISR gig. I am currently flying Emb 145's and have been throwing the possibility of making a switch to ISR flying when things get back to "normal". I am a former military "non pilot" with clearance (although it'll be expiring soon). I had two buddies who used to work for L3, and another who used to fly for AAR and they seemed to have enjoyed it, but since moved to other jobs.
Thanks to all who reply
Thanks to all who reply
10-15-2020, 03:59 PM
#662
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Joined APC: Nov 2019
Posts: 1,256
Originally Posted by Inverted123
Anyone have any tips, and or comments on how to land a ISR gig. I am currently flying Emb 145's and have been throwing the possibility of making a switch to ISR flying when things get back to "normal". I am a former military "non pilot" with clearance (although it'll be expiring soon). I had two buddies who used to work for L3, and another who used to fly for AAR and they seemed to have enjoyed it, but since moved to other jobs.
Thanks to all who reply
Thanks to all who reply
an ATP
a King Air 350 type rating?
King Air 200 or 350 time at all ?
TS clearance active or recently expired?
prior Pilot mil ISR time or Customs/Federal LE aviation time?
10-16-2020, 02:55 AM
#664
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Joined APC: Aug 2017
Position: EWR 737 FO
Posts: 70
Expectations for former 121 new to ISR
Originally Posted by Inverted123
Anyone have any tips, and or comments on how to land a ISR gig. I am currently flying Emb 145's and have been throwing the possibility of making a switch to ISR flying when things get back to "normal". I am a former military "non pilot" with clearance (although it'll be expiring soon). I had two buddies who used to work for L3, and another who used to fly for AAR and they seemed to have enjoyed it, but since moved to other jobs.
Thanks to all who reply
Thanks to all who reply
The other poster alluded to the problem you will face. At the moment the market is flush with King Air 350 typed, 12-month current, ISR mission or military aviation experienced guys with a TS clearance and an ATP. Unless you check all those boxes, there are guys ahead of you in line at each company that do check all the boxes. It looks like you probably have an ATP, but any company would need to send you to an initial type course and spend money to reinvestigate your clearance. You would also be competing against all the furloughed 121 guys that just need a recurrent to get back into ISR. If I was a chief pilot, I would not look at your resume until after I hired all the available current and former King Air people I could find. Then I would hire all the recent former military that just needed a type rating. Then I would get around to your resume. I don't expect that to happen until the airlines start hiring again.
You should apply, just wanted to give you some reasonable expectations. Good luck.
10-16-2020, 08:41 PM
#665
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Joined APC: Oct 2018
Posts: 93
Originally Posted by AH1Toaster
The other poster alluded to the problem you will face. At the moment the market is flush with King Air 350 typed, 12-month current, ISR mission or military aviation experienced guys with a TS clearance and an ATP. Unless you check all those boxes, there are guys ahead of you in line at each company that do check all the boxes. It looks like you probably have an ATP, but any company would need to send you to an initial type course and spend money to reinvestigate your clearance. You would also be competing against all the furloughed 121 guys that just need a recurrent to get back into ISR. If I was a chief pilot, I would not look at your resume until after I hired all the available current and former King Air people I could find. Then I would hire all the recent former military that just needed a type rating. Then I would get around to your resume. I don't expect that to happen until the airlines start hiring again.
You should apply, just wanted to give you some reasonable expectations. Good luck.
You should apply, just wanted to give you some reasonable expectations. Good luck.
10-18-2020, 05:31 AM
#669
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Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 324
Originally Posted by AH1Toaster
The other poster alluded to the problem you will face. At the moment the market is flush with King Air 350 typed, 12-month current, ISR mission or military aviation experienced guys with a TS clearance and an ATP. Unless you check all those boxes, there are guys ahead of you in line at each company that do check all the boxes. It looks like you probably have an ATP, but any company would need to send you to an initial type course and spend money to reinvestigate your clearance. You would also be competing against all the furloughed 121 guys that just need a recurrent to get back into ISR. If I was a chief pilot, I would not look at your resume until after I hired all the available current and former King Air people I could find. Then I would hire all the recent former military that just needed a type rating. Then I would get around to your resume. I don't expect that to happen until the airlines start hiring again.
You should apply, just wanted to give you some reasonable expectations. Good luck.
You should apply, just wanted to give you some reasonable expectations. Good luck.
01-20-2021, 11:46 PM
#670
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: 767 FO
Posts: 836
Looks like L3Harris has the SIC hiring window open again. BE350 ISR Pilot – SIC-2 (OCONUS) at L3Harris Technologies
