Southern Airways Express
#472
On Reserve
Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 12
answering questions
Takes about 2 months from day1 indoc to get released to line, back log in training and the inability to get instructors to train crew. Things are finally starting to level out here. Ops were getting crazy adding a new EAS city every month. The air choice one Aircraft aquired in the merger were not maintained well and as a result have been causing problems. Good chance of getting requested base other than in the gulf eld hro hot are crewed well. Theyre hiring for every position just keep applying. Obviously this place isnt perfect but its a first job so pay the dues and move on, better for some that dont want to cfi and being a cfi is better for others. It's real world experience flying into ATL LAX ORD PIT IAD BNA PHX not flying around the pattern at your local airport. PM me with any other questions
#473
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2016
Posts: 38
Takes about 2 months from day1 indoc to get released to line, back log in training and the inability to get instructors to train crew. Things are finally starting to level out here. Ops were getting crazy adding a new EAS city every month. The air choice one Aircraft aquired in the merger were not maintained well and as a result have been causing problems. Good chance of getting requested base other than in the gulf eld hro hot are crewed well. Theyre hiring for every position just keep applying. Obviously this place isnt perfect but its a first job so pay the dues and move on, better for some that dont want to cfi and being a cfi is better for others. It's real world experience flying into ATL LAX ORD PIT IAD BNA PHX not flying around the pattern at your local airport. PM me with any other questions
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#474
New Hire
Joined APC: Apr 2022
Posts: 2
Takes about 2 months from day1 indoc to get released to line, back log in training and the inability to get instructors to train crew. Things are finally starting to level out here. Ops were getting crazy adding a new EAS city every month. The air choice one Aircraft aquired in the merger were not maintained well and as a result have been causing problems. Good chance of getting requested base other than in the gulf eld hro hot are crewed well. Theyre hiring for every position just keep applying. Obviously this place isnt perfect but its a first job so pay the dues and move on, better for some that dont want to cfi and being a cfi is better for others. It's real world experience flying into ATL LAX ORD PIT IAD BNA PHX not flying around the pattern at your local airport. PM me with any other questions
1) What do schedules look like? How many days are you scheduled per month? How many hours do you actually fly? Would it be possible to work for Southern and CFI on the side (student schedule allowing obviously)?
2) What's a realistic minimum TT to get hired at?
3) How is Southern with accommodating major life events? I'm getting married next September and would be looking to be off for about three weeks between the wedding and honeymoon.
#475
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2023
Posts: 13
100%
If you're planning on an airline career, you'll be light years ahead of the game if you just do your CFI and instruct to 1500 hours, and then go directly to Skywest or whomever. As a Southern FO, you'll be lowest on totem pole to get trained because they lose captains at an astonishing rate, and captains hired months after you will be trained before you!
#476
EJET Driver
Joined APC: Apr 2020
Posts: 31
#477
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2015
Position: B777 CA
Posts: 736
Plus you risk your career flying for a bottom feeder like Southern Airways Express. Equipment and maintenance has deteriorated, management threatens pilots. If you bend mental or do anything wrong Southern management will throw you under the bus in a NY second. Company has really gone down hill last few years. Friend there was told to falsify training records, of course he didn’t.
36 year senior 777 CA here who mentors pilots and provides career counseling. Do you really want to risk your career flying for this scum bag operation? Do you want explain incidents, accident, violations or being terminated on your regional, LCC and or Legacy interviews? Something to think about.
#478
EJET Driver
Joined APC: Apr 2020
Posts: 31
Plus you risk your career flying for a bottom feeder like Southern Airways Express. Equipment and maintenance has deteriorated, management threatens pilots. If you bend mental or do anything wrong Southern management will throw you under the bus in a NY second. Company has really gone down hill last few years. Friend there was told to falsify training records, of course he didn’t.
36 year senior 777 CA here who mentors pilots and provides career counseling. Do you really want to risk your career flying for this scum bag operation? Do you want explain incidents, accident, violations or being terminated on your regional, LCC and or Legacy interviews? Something to think about.
36 year senior 777 CA here who mentors pilots and provides career counseling. Do you really want to risk your career flying for this scum bag operation? Do you want explain incidents, accident, violations or being terminated on your regional, LCC and or Legacy interviews? Something to think about.
#479
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2010
Position: Retired
Posts: 230
Plus you risk your career flying for a bottom feeder like Southern Airways Express. Equipment and maintenance has deteriorated, management threatens pilots. If you bend mental or do anything wrong Southern management will throw you under the bus in a NY second. Company has really gone down hill last few years. Friend there was told to falsify training records, of course he didn’t.
36 year senior 777 CA here who mentors pilots and provides career counseling. Do you really want to risk your career flying for this scum bag operation? Do you want explain incidents, accident, violations or being terminated on your regional, LCC and or Legacy interviews? Something to think about.
36 year senior 777 CA here who mentors pilots and provides career counseling. Do you really want to risk your career flying for this scum bag operation? Do you want explain incidents, accident, violations or being terminated on your regional, LCC and or Legacy interviews? Something to think about.
#480
New Hire
Joined APC: Jan 2023
Posts: 1
Offers
Just looking to see if anyone that works at Southern has any advice. I noticed a Tecnam SIC position in Saipan. I have been interested in flying in Saipan for a long time! I sent my resume to multiple people, but I did not hear anything for a couple of weeks. I got a call from Alaska Seaplanes and was invited to go for an interview. I was offered a position by Alaska seaplanes before I left Juneau even though they said I would not hear anything for a week. On the flight home, I received a voicemail from the Southern recruiter. I called her shortly after landing and set up a video conference. I told her I was working on a tight timeline because I needed to get back to Seaplanes with an answer. After our video conference, I contacted her several times asking for a benefits overview so I could talk to my wife about what the benefits looked like so we could make a quick decision if Southern offered me as well. I texted, emailed, left voicemails, and she never provided me with the requested information, only a message that they were reviewing my information. I told her several times I had to give Seaplanes an answer. I finally reached my deadline with Seaplanes and let them know I was going to accept (because I assumed Southern was not happening and quite frankly the lack of response worries me)! Well, what happened the next morning (after 4-5 days of sending requests)? The recruiter sends me the information and wants to set up a time for me to talk with the chief pilot and the VP of retention. I assume I will get an offer, but at this point, I have committed elsewhere. I think I will enjoy Seaplanes and the atmosphere is great. However, there is that part of me that wants to go to Saipan. I am extremely loyal and I would hate to back out of my commitment. So, here is my question. Does Southern ever offer higher than starting pay? Is it okay to ask and say at this point I have committed elsewhere what can you offer me to change my mind? Or should I just say thanks, but no thanks?
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