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Old 09-19-2014, 04:16 PM
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I went the AMFLIGHT way and I liked it! I was there when they paid you for anything extra and I was fortunately appreciated when I was there. Its a good place to go and get Turbine PIC and a decent QOL. I probably would't be where I am now if i would have gone the 121 route after instructing.... its all a crap shoot.
When did you go through?
The AMF of yesterday has very little in common with the AMF of today.
That said, some weirdos still like it today.
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Old 09-19-2014, 06:36 PM
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I don't think you are "missing" anything. My only point was that it takes an honest to god hard working, no kidding, stick, rudder and seriously hard wired instrument pilot to do the single pilot Metro stuff.

The RJ stuff is definitely a more comfortable way to make a living. No doubt about it!
Not really. I'm not Chuck Yeager and I didn't come close to killing myself.
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You're right mojo.

Single pilot in a Metro and flying F/O on a modern RJ are the same. What was I thinking?

I didn't almost kill myself single pilot in a Merlin either. But I wasn't attempting to break Mach or do inverted stress testing ala Yeager in it either.
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Old 09-20-2014, 07:30 PM
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I think they're going to be a hurting for guys that can fly a Metro single pilot for 40K. There's a lot of guys out of work around CVG, but not for 40K. Delta Private Jets is a lot better job, better QOL, mostly day flying, nice hotels..... ect.
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I think they're going to be a hurting for guys that can fly a Metro single pilot for 40K. There's a lot of guys out of work around CVG, but not for 40K. Delta Private Jets is a lot better job, better QOL, mostly day flying, nice hotels..... ect.
DPJ is probably the only jet job I would say is worse than AMF. Better QOL my ass. 20+ days on a month away, you train in your off time, no overtime, horrible training contracts, poor management. FO starting pay is less than what a CA would make at AMF in the Metro.
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Originally Posted by Airhoss View Post
You're right mojo.

Single pilot in a Metro and flying F/O on a modern RJ are the same. What was I thinking?

I didn't almost kill myself single pilot in a Merlin either. But I wasn't attempting to break Mach or do inverted stress testing ala Yeager in it either.
Flying any aircraft without AP, FD, or an FO at 3am to the armpit of Mexico is inherently more dangerous than flying an aircraft with any of the above. I am sure an old Lear is probably harder to fly than a Metro.
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Originally Posted by MR JT8D View Post
I think they're going to be a hurting for guys that can fly a Metro single pilot for 40K. There's a lot of guys out of work around CVG, but not for 40K. Delta Private Jets is a lot better job, better QOL, mostly day flying, nice hotels..... ect.
Well the other source said it's $44k, but we determined even among Metro pilots that 's low because the average is about $52k. That's just the average not the high end for Metro drivers. I never get the business model at companies like this because low pay= employee turnover= extra overhead. Apparently the higher overhead is worth the savings in lower payroll numbers. I always wonder did this company ever try paying people a fair wage and treating them decently as a type of business model or way of doing business, and if they did was it successful or not.
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Well the other source said it's $44k, but we determined even among Metro pilots that 's low because the average is about $52k. That's just the average not the high end for Metro drivers. I never get the business model at companies like this because low pay= employee turnover= extra overhead. Apparently the higher overhead is worth the savings in lower payroll numbers. I always wonder did this company ever try paying people a fair wage and treating them decently as a type of business model or way of doing business, and if they did was it successful or not.
Stepping over a dollar to pick up a dime. They're still stuck in 2008 when pilots would kill for a job like this.
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Flying any aircraft without AP, FD, or an FO at 3am to the armpit of Mexico is inherently more dangerous than flying an aircraft with any of the above. I am sure an old Lear is probably harder to fly than a Metro.
And flying an F 104 low level in the weather at Mach one is more dangerous than that. But the comparison was an SA 227 single pilot vs your average everyday RJ job. Thanks for playing.
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And flying an F 104 low level in the weather at Mach one is more dangerous than that. But the comparison was an SA 227 single pilot vs your average everyday RJ job. Thanks for playing.
I was mainly replying to this part of your quote:

My only point was that it takes an honest to god hard working, no kidding, stick, rudder and seriously hard wired instrument pilot to do the single pilot Metro stuff.
I was a flight instructor before hopping into the left seat of the Metro.
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