MantisToboggan

Gonna miss ya buddy!

In all seriousness, congrats and good for you

123494

Good info. Thanks and good luck

EyeKon

Negotiations concerning what? Flow, pay, scheduling?

Theaveragejoker

Leftover recreational equipment from Air Wisconsin.

EyeKon

Finally, I was wondering what was going to happen with that equipment.

Phoenix21

Nothing of significant consequence...along the lines of limiting schedulings ability to assign folks to “standby” duty during interface...and negotiations aren’t going well. Too much institutional inertia...

Frontier is hiring btw, and they take RTAG guys.

Heavy Hive

I was very surprised to hear this young man hired several yrs ago state that nothing had actually progressed as far as the training issues and inefficient trips. Actually, it had gotten far worse. People come to a regional to build time. Regional airlines hire pilots to fly their planes. Seems none of this is happening at Piedmont. A lot of people thought the former USAir people would rectify this, but it isn't happening. It's too bad.

Lahey

We’ve been preaching for a while. There were certain things keeping guys rolling here. It’s all gone.

Trip prem, gone. (Some for FOs now cause we’re short)

Fast upgrades, gone. Classes cancelled. Even if they weren’t, training takes forever. Not worth it.

Flow. Long. Ain’t gonna happen in 5 years.

80%+ lines are min days off
80%+ are min pay.
Blocks are low.

Great times here at PDT.

4thgenaviator

And if the union is actively negotiating with the company, why have they been so hush hush about it? It’s supremely frustrating that all we have to go on are rumors. I would like to hear directly from the union about what’s going on.

Phoenix21

You’re going to have to go somewhere non WO for that it seems.

Last year “designated leakers” (union or management designated... you can decide for yourself) hyped up the gains the pilot group was going to get in the new TA on the eve of summer flying in order to keep people hopeful and stay and to help keep people coming in the door. The union gleefully delivered a TA on behalf of management and their union busting consultants that was completely concessionary and a waste of time, and should have resulted in the MEC leadership becoming line pilots, experiencing 11 days off with the rest of the group.

The same thing is now happening again after a wave of people submitted their resignations and the recruiters are searching far and wide to get any qualified applicant in the door and having severe difficulties. It’s funny because when you talk to the folks in the union who do the negotiations, they’ll openly state that there’s been no negotiations since the TA came out. Then folks not associated with the union negotiators start saying “there’s a big secret negotiation going on, very hush hush” with the goal giving the group some hope and keeping people from taking that huge pay bump to go to Frontier or Spirit or ATI or JetBlue or SWA or Fedex in order to stay here for another 3-8 years until they flow.. and it works.

I personally know individuals who have turned down Spirit, JetBlue and Fedex to stay for at Piedmont to flow in more than two years. Part of me dies inside every time I hear it.

This summer will come and go without any big changes. It won’t be until big brother Envoy experiences trouble filling classes (they’ve got a 175, more bases and better scheduling ability) that AA will make some “just enough” change that benefits certain members of the pilot group more so than others because it’s a cheaper than improving things for the whole group.