FAA medical crime question
03-23-2008, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ABK MAN
I have a question, how do you go about reporting something that you failed to report on a previous medical? Example, I failed to recall that I was allergic to hay when I was a youngin while I was filling out the 8500 form. Do I need to amend my medical on file for that? wait till I take the next medical, and then report it? Should I just refer to the above FAA contact info listed?
03-23-2008, 07:12 PM
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not like I was when I was five, I remember getting into the hayloft in a barn up at grandads house, hoo wee, I think the hay dust did me in. I haven't had a reaction like that in a very long time, perhaps 15-20 yrs. I would like to be legit and have it on the medical, yet what kind of reprecussions might ensue?
03-23-2008, 07:36 PM
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Like I said, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Next time you go see the AME, you can mention it... just tell him you forgot when you first applied, and going through a spring season "reminded" you.
I have "allergies" that act up this time of year due to pollen. I haven't ever bothered to disclose them since, it's pretty common for everybody.
The FAA is more concerned about allergies that could incapacitate you while flying an aircraft.
I have "allergies" that act up this time of year due to pollen. I haven't ever bothered to disclose them since, it's pretty common for everybody.
The FAA is more concerned about allergies that could incapacitate you while flying an aircraft.
03-24-2008, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ABK MAN
not like I was when I was five, I remember getting into the hayloft in a barn up at grandads house, hoo wee, I think the hay dust did me in. I haven't had a reaction like that in a very long time, perhaps 15-20 yrs. I would like to be legit and have it on the medical, yet what kind of reprecussions might ensue?
If you had extensive treatment and medication, it would probably be wise to report it, but I doubt the FAA can really hold you responsible for remembering all childhood medical issues.
03-24-2008, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Technically you should report anything significant which you were diagnosed with. Realistically, most people probably don't report things like minor childhood ailments which are no longer a factor in their lives...especially if the medical records are ancient history. Some AAirlines are notorious for eliminating applicants with any appAArent history of medical issues.
If you had extensive treatment and medication, it would probably be wise to report it, but I doubt the FAA can really hold you responsible for remembering all childhood medical issues.
If you had extensive treatment and medication, it would probably be wise to report it, but I doubt the FAA can really hold you responsible for remembering all childhood medical issues.
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04-29-2008, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by superboco
I have a employee who is pursuing his degree in aviation and currently has his pilots license. He received a DUI last year and a resisting arrest misdemeanor at the same time. He filled out the paper work to renew his medical and put the DUI down but for some reason, he did not put down the resisting arrest. He is now worried about the ramifications of being accused of lying on the form. He had no reason to leave it off since he disclosed the DUI and he is wondering what to do. The medical has not been finished yet and I think he should call and let them know that he forgot to include it before they find it and officially turn it down. Any opinions on what he should do. If he does loose his medical what other options does he have if any to still fly? I told him he should consider going into Aviation Management. Any help would be appreciated.
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10-21-2008, 11:15 PM
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This may be a dead thread now, but I need to know a few things. When I was 20 (ten years ago) I made a series of bad mistakes and picked up a felony. I've lived straight and narrow since and have a good career, family, etc. Stupid kid stuff long since gone. Anyways, I just went to get my medical certificate the other day and I was surprised that after I honestly disclosed my conviction, they want much more information to the case. I find it rather odd that they need any more information than what is on my NDR file. I was requested to get the details of the file, decree, disposition, etc. including a letter explaining explicit details of what happened. Why? What does that all have to do with a medical certificate? It didn't involved drugs or alcohol... it was listed as a non-violent crime that didn't involve firearms or weapons. Is this really necessary or is this someone getting really nosey into something I'd rather keep in the past? Besides, it's going to cost me big since the file has been since archived.
I'm only obtaining my pilot's certificate for recreation and not for job purposes. I don't want to be a commercial pilot, I just want to fly for fun as a hobby. Will my mistake 10 years ago prevent me from obtaining that? Are the hoops worth it or overkill? I want to comply, but I also want to tell this guy to buzz off and read my NDR for the details and that's it.
I appreciate any help anyone can offer.
Thank you!!
Josh123
I'm only obtaining my pilot's certificate for recreation and not for job purposes. I don't want to be a commercial pilot, I just want to fly for fun as a hobby. Will my mistake 10 years ago prevent me from obtaining that? Are the hoops worth it or overkill? I want to comply, but I also want to tell this guy to buzz off and read my NDR for the details and that's it.
I appreciate any help anyone can offer.
Thank you!!
Josh123
10-22-2008, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by josh123
This may be a dead thread now, but I need to know a few things. When I was 20 (ten years ago) I made a series of bad mistakes and picked up a felony. I've lived straight and narrow since and have a good career, family, etc. Stupid kid stuff long since gone. Anyways, I just went to get my medical certificate the other day and I was surprised that after I honestly disclosed my conviction, they want much more information to the case. I find it rather odd that they need any more information than what is on my NDR file. I was requested to get the details of the file, decree, disposition, etc. including a letter explaining explicit details of what happened. Why? What does that all have to do with a medical certificate? It didn't involved drugs or alcohol... it was listed as a non-violent crime that didn't involve firearms or weapons. Is this really necessary or is this someone getting really nosey into something I'd rather keep in the past? Besides, it's going to cost me big since the file has been since archived.
I'm only obtaining my pilot's certificate for recreation and not for job purposes. I don't want to be a commercial pilot, I just want to fly for fun as a hobby. Will my mistake 10 years ago prevent me from obtaining that? Are the hoops worth it or overkill? I want to comply, but I also want to tell this guy to buzz off and read my NDR for the details and that's it.
I appreciate any help anyone can offer.
Thank you!!
Josh123
I'm only obtaining my pilot's certificate for recreation and not for job purposes. I don't want to be a commercial pilot, I just want to fly for fun as a hobby. Will my mistake 10 years ago prevent me from obtaining that? Are the hoops worth it or overkill? I want to comply, but I also want to tell this guy to buzz off and read my NDR for the details and that's it.
I appreciate any help anyone can offer.
Thank you!!
Josh123
This is normal procedure on their part, and there are no statute of limitations that I know of. Basically, I suspect they are concerned with several things...
- Mental Health
- Antisocial Behavior
- Substance Abuse
Active mental health problems are usually medically disqualifying, and there is a high correlation between criminal activity and mental health.
Antisocial behavior patterns are a well-known high risk factor for airplane crashes...a significant criminal record might indicate that the person is likely to break safety rules.
Substance abuse could correlate with either mental health issues or antisocial attitudes.
In your case since no substance abuse, weapons, or violence was involved, I'm sure it will get written off as youthful silliness...there are plenty of airline captains who did dumb things when they were kids (usually alcohol-related).
They just have to go through the motions on this.
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