Starts the first day report time and ends at last day release time


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Not a hijack but a question. So would it be wise to start working at PSA on the very last day of a quarter to maximize the possibility of receiving more of that retention bonus when it comes time? Also does the clock start On the first day of class or sometime after?

 

Seniority is everything. It would be wise to start the first day possible

 

If I recall I think the contract says it's time out to time in.

 

Probably yes, if you are considering two class dates and one fits that description it might be worth $2500 before taxes to you a year later, unless you are already upgrading, then it wouldn't matter.

 

If you have previous 121 time or 135 time that counts I wouldn’t plan on being an FO for very long. They are getting to the point where the people they are forcing to upgrade barely have their 1000 SIC so they will just go running down the list for qualified people. I wouldn’t worry long term about the retention bonuses I would take the seniority over $2500 personally because the QOL difference could make a huge difference in your personal life.

 

So would you take a DEC at PDt or fast upgrade at PSA. I’m a former ca at PDT lives in MD. Would want DCA.

 

Fastest route to AA is the goal.

 

Ask the Piedmont guys how many are on their seniority list, and what their monthly or annual flow is. Their seniority list is much smaller than PSA's is, so even if they aren't flowing as many, you could well end up at AA faster there.

For reference, PSA has about 1,800 on the seniority list, and is only flowing 10/month...or about 110/year, given AA doesn't usually have a class around the holidays. That's 16 years to flow, barring outside attrition.

I realize there is outside attrition, but no one can know how much it will be, and there will be outside attrition at Piedmont as well...likely in the same proportion to what PSA will experience.

There are pilots at Piedmont hired nearly two years after I was hired at PSA, who will flow to AA before I do, simply due to the size of the pilot groups. It's all relative, and being on the bottom of a seniority list of 800 pilots is preferable to being on the bottom of a seniority list of 1,800 pilots, ceteris paribus.

 

If you want to be a CA and DCA you can do that at PSA fast. Just understand you will be on reserve for just under 4 years probably. The flow is a hard call to make. Both have them and PSA flows more per month than PDT does but if you look at pilot group size I’m pretty sure it’s a relative percentage.