Management Rejects Temporary Relief
09-15-2020, 04:12 PM
#11
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This isn't anything more than PSA MGMT trying to come out of their own mistakes and deflect to labor.
Endeavor has 2,000 pilots for 180ish airplanes I think. PSA has same headcount and maybe 130, maybe less.
They got caught with their pants down so porked up and fat on labor and admin/mgmt, when D0 and completion factor was all they were judged on. They desperately want to outshine PDT and Envoy.
The CEO used to be over all US Airways express operations, the goal is president over all Eagle.
Plain and simple aggressive CEO wanting to shine and deliver.
Endeavor has 2,000 pilots for 180ish airplanes I think. PSA has same headcount and maybe 130, maybe less.
They got caught with their pants down so porked up and fat on labor and admin/mgmt, when D0 and completion factor was all they were judged on. They desperately want to outshine PDT and Envoy.
The CEO used to be over all US Airways express operations, the goal is president over all Eagle.
Plain and simple aggressive CEO wanting to shine and deliver.
09-16-2020, 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by RubberFactory
It seems likely to me that management’s insistence on not giving an inch means they know something about the future that the union absolutely does not. This is not a company that is acting a.) like one with anything that remotely resembles prosperity on the horizon or b.) like one that ever wants to attract pilots again. Draw your own conclusions, but I recommend everyone double down on a plan B outside of aviation.
Assuming (gladly) that this is overly pessimistic, I don’t think giving up SAP without anything in return is an acceptable course of action even in this climate. I’m glad the union clearly agrees.
Assuming (gladly) that this is overly pessimistic, I don’t think giving up SAP without anything in return is an acceptable course of action even in this climate. I’m glad the union clearly agrees.
I’m with you on this one. I think the future is coming to an end, and they know it.
09-16-2020, 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by RubberFactory
It seems likely to me that management’s insistence on not giving an inch means they know something about the future that the union absolutely does not. This is not a company that is acting a.) like one with anything that remotely resembles prosperity on the horizon or b.) like one that ever wants to attract pilots again. Draw your own conclusions, but I recommend everyone double down on a plan B outside of aviation.
Assuming (gladly) that this is overly pessimistic, I don’t think giving up SAP without anything in return is an acceptable course of action even in this climate. I’m glad the union clearly agrees.
Assuming (gladly) that this is overly pessimistic, I don’t think giving up SAP without anything in return is an acceptable course of action even in this climate. I’m glad the union clearly agrees.
09-16-2020, 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Baldheadedman66
We have no idea, but I don't think it's come to that point just yet. Management for years has been trying to get rid of SAP and they thought that using a time of crisis in the industry would get the pilots/union to budge. Unfortunately they decided that they would only accept their offer and not let the union bring in some ideas. If the company wants to continue, they'll eventually come to the table, but I feel like that's going to be a while.
It’s a crap sandwich but don’t cave! Hopefully this will be short lived and we can go back to pilot shortage again.
09-16-2020, 05:02 AM
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SAP is great for half the pilots but it’s a disaster for the company and the other half of the pilots. Is there any other airline that has to run every flight with reserves over xmas and thanksgiving?
The pilot group’s response is rational and appropriate but so is the company’s. This is going to be a very high confrontation process because each side has so much at stake.
The pilot group’s response is rational and appropriate but so is the company’s. This is going to be a very high confrontation process because each side has so much at stake.
09-16-2020, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by NFGCDCTL
Using a crisis to take away your biggest bargaining chip and QOL tool is just dirty. Even worse that they won’t even discuss other options.
It’s a crap sandwich but don’t cave! Hopefully this will be short lived and we can go back to pilot shortage again.
It’s a crap sandwich but don’t cave! Hopefully this will be short lived and we can go back to pilot shortage again.
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