Management Rejects Temporary Relief
09-16-2020, 02:51 PM
#31
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The fundamental problem is that SAP is hugely inefficient. Both from a mgmt perspective and a labor one. SAP turns the pilot group into sheep and goats. Mgmt isn’t going to be interested in cost neutral changes because the cost was a problem pre-covid.
only way this really works is another jets for jobs deal. MEC accepts a contract that reduces unit cost and in exchange AA gives psa a bunch more flying so that Everyone on property is made whole by becoming more senior and the “losers” are the new hires.
only way this really works is another jets for jobs deal. MEC accepts a contract that reduces unit cost and in exchange AA gives psa a bunch more flying so that Everyone on property is made whole by becoming more senior and the “losers” are the new hires.
09-16-2020, 03:10 PM
#32
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Originally Posted by ZeroTT
The fundamental problem is that SAP is hugely inefficient. Both from a mgmt perspective and a labor one. SAP turns the pilot group into sheep and goats. Mgmt isn’t going to be interested in cost neutral changes because the cost was a problem pre-covid.
only way this really works is another jets for jobs deal. MEC accepts a contract that reduces unit cost and in exchange AA gives psa a bunch more flying so that Everyone on property is made whole by becoming more senior and the “losers” are the new hires.
only way this really works is another jets for jobs deal. MEC accepts a contract that reduces unit cost and in exchange AA gives psa a bunch more flying so that Everyone on property is made whole by becoming more senior and the “losers” are the new hires.
09-16-2020, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeroTT
The fundamental problem is that SAP is hugely inefficient. Both from a mgmt perspective and a labor one. SAP turns the pilot group into sheep and goats. Mgmt isn’t going to be interested in cost neutral changes because the cost was a problem pre-covid.
only way this really works is another jets for jobs deal. MEC accepts a contract that reduces unit cost and in exchange AA gives psa a bunch more flying so that Everyone on property is made whole by becoming more senior and the “losers” are the new hires.
only way this really works is another jets for jobs deal. MEC accepts a contract that reduces unit cost and in exchange AA gives psa a bunch more flying so that Everyone on property is made whole by becoming more senior and the “losers” are the new hires.
I figure giving up sap now will be a choice forced upon us in the next few months. Trade sap for pbs and let management set the terms, or AA will shut us down. This is the reality of negotiations, if you don't act when you have the leverage then expect to get screwed.
09-16-2020, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Approach1260
Frankly I think any chance of trading sap for something that improves things is gone. We didn't strike while the iron was hot, now it's cold as ice.
I figure giving up sap now will be a choice forced upon us in the next few months. Trade sap for pbs and let management set the terms, or AA will shut us down. This is the reality of negotiations, if you don't act when you have the leverage then expect to get screwed.
I figure giving up sap now will be a choice forced upon us in the next few months. Trade sap for pbs and let management set the terms, or AA will shut us down. This is the reality of negotiations, if you don't act when you have the leverage then expect to get screwed.
09-16-2020, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Approach1260
This is the reality of negotiations, if you don't act when you have the leverage then expect to get screwed.
And yes AA might close PSA over SAP. The unpredictable ability for half the workforce to take the same day off is a HUGE cost.
They’re gonna be hunting cash for many more months.
09-16-2020, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
You think AA shuts PSA down over SAP and/or PBS?
But truly I'm just venting my frustration over here, if I actuality had a clue what was actually gonna happen I'd just go play the lottery instead lol.
09-16-2020, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by idlethrust
No one makes that buddy . Where have you been ? Pre Covid , bonuses up to 90k were being given just for signing on.Thsts on top of your regular salary
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