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Old 03-25-2022 | 03:17 PM
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Question for any of you that have been through the E3 visa on-boarding process.

I have two TSA training ID’s. One for CTP ATP course and one for the PSA school. Must I book and pay for fingerprints to be collected twice, ie, one for each training ID number? Or can I have my fingerprints collected once by the collector and use those fingerprints for both TSA training ID numbers? To do it twice is really a lot of $$$ gone when once ought to be enough.
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Old 03-25-2022 | 08:31 PM
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This is a long shot since there are like 40 APD's at PSA. But did anyone have thier KV with Kenneth Bowden? Can you PM me your experience?
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Old 03-26-2022 | 02:11 AM
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[QUOTE=E3Visapilot;3394733]Question for any of you that have been through the E3 visa on-boarding process.

I have two TSA training ID’s. One for CTP ATP course and one for the PSA school. Must I book and pay for fingerprints to be collected twice, ie, one for each training ID number? Or can I have my fingerprints collected once by the collector and use those fingerprints for both TSA training ID numbers? To do it twice is really a lot of $$$ gone when once ought to be enough.

Your fingerprints only get taken once and they are on file for 10 years. Anytime you submit a TSA training event they just use your fingerprints on file.
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Old 03-26-2022 | 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by E3Visapilot
Question for any of you that have been through the E3 visa on-boarding process.

I have two TSA training ID’s. One for CTP ATP course and one for the PSA school. Must I book and pay for fingerprints to be collected twice, ie, one for each training ID number? Or can I have my fingerprints collected once by the collector and use those fingerprints for both TSA training ID numbers? To do it twice is really a lot of $$$ gone when once ought to be enough.

Your fingerprints only get taken once and they are on file for 10 years. Anytime you submit a TSA training event they just use your fingerprints on file.
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Old 03-26-2022 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by E3Visapilot
Question for any of you that have been through the E3 visa on-boarding process.

I have two TSA training ID’s. One for CTP ATP course and one for the PSA school. Must I book and pay for fingerprints to be collected twice, ie, one for each training ID number? Or can I have my fingerprints collected once by the collector and use those fingerprints for both TSA training ID numbers? To do it twice is really a lot of $$$ gone when once ought to be enough.
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E3 Visa pilots are a negative deterrent to this industry and ALPA pilots with full U.S citizenship. Fully qualified American citizens with full FAA ratings and paying ALPA dues will be affected negatively by this foreign pilot program. This E3 Visa program is a shame and I hope our future ALPA president can fight this program continuing.
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Old 03-26-2022 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by RandomPilotDude
This is a long shot since there are like 40 APD's at PSA. But did anyone have thier KV with Kenneth Bowden? Can you PM me your experience?

If you’re Trying to get a gouge on the instructor, don’t. Just don’t. I have literally heard from some of the APD guys and gals, that students got upset and when they weren’t asked something that another student said they would. And the kicker is that they passed!! And still got upset that their gouge was wrong.

Know your limitations 100%, know immediate action items cold, go over weather, and legality for dispatch release. Marginal vs 17347. How do you use derived minimums for an alternate, and definitely be able to tell what every button or switch does. For example: what criteria needs to be met for the GLD to automatically deploy? That may lead into why we always treat a bounced landing like a balked landing. Do not try to tailor your knowledge towards the individual.
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Old 03-26-2022 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by snuffleupagus69
E3 Visa pilots are a negative deterrent to this industry and ALPA pilots with full U.S citizenship. Fully qualified American citizens with full FAA ratings and paying ALPA dues will be affected negatively by this foreign pilot program. This E3 Visa program is a shame and I hope our future ALPA president can fight this program continuing.
A point of clarification, E3 pilots go through the same training program, are issued the same "full" FAA ATP as American citizens and pay the same ALPA/union dues.
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Old 03-26-2022 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by snuffleupagus69
E3 Visa pilots are a negative deterrent to this industry and ALPA pilots with full U.S citizenship. Fully qualified American citizens with full FAA ratings and paying ALPA dues will be affected negatively by this foreign pilot program. This E3 Visa program is a shame and I hope our future ALPA president can fight this program continuing.
Well why don’t you tell us all what your solution would be to help the US airline industry and the airlines grow amidst a shortage of skilled labour?

Co-incidentally, this growth is what’s needed to propel even your career to new heights but you seem opposed to it. I mean really!?
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Old 03-26-2022 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by E3Visapilot
Well why don’t you tell us all what your solution would be to help the US airline industry and the airlines grow amidst a shortage of skilled labour?

Co-incidentally, this growth is what’s needed to propel even your career to new heights but you seem opposed to it. I mean really!?
They could, I dunno, pay what the market demands for the job? There's a reason people never came back after furloughs. Going back even further, it's no surprise there's a lack of qualified people wanting to do the job, when they were paying something ungodly low like $15K a year before.

Pretending there's simply no other way to attract people than to run to other countries is disingenuous (not by you, I understand where you personally sit in all of this, but certainly on the part of companies doing this now).
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Old 03-26-2022 | 02:20 PM
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snuffleupagus69;3395129]E3 Visa pilots are a negative deterrent to this industry and ALPA pilots with full U.S citizenship. Fully qualified American citizens with full FAA ratings and paying ALPA dues will be affected negatively by this foreign pilot program. This E3 Visa program is a shame and I hope our future ALPA president can fight this program continuing.
Put really simply, the US does not have enough 1500 hour pilots, right now. If they did, there'd be no E3 pilots. Simple. As soon as you do have the pilot numbers E3 will be gone, supply and demand. And I'll guarantee you the E3 program has zero effect on regional remuneration.
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