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#831
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Joined: May 2009
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From: Ridin' shotgun
Av8r1,
I just went through it. I would recommend that you learn the limitations cold (they send them to you) and the flows are the biggest thing to get down right now. Get yourself cockpit posters (do it), paste it on the wall and start learning the flows and where things are located. This is what helped me the most. Get with your partner and study, then with a group study more.
Good people they seemed to care about your success. You have to work for it though. Have fun and good luck.
I just went through it. I would recommend that you learn the limitations cold (they send them to you) and the flows are the biggest thing to get down right now. Get yourself cockpit posters (do it), paste it on the wall and start learning the flows and where things are located. This is what helped me the most. Get with your partner and study, then with a group study more.
Good people they seemed to care about your success. You have to work for it though. Have fun and good luck.
Thanks!
#832
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jun 2010
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Don't get a poster. You will only use a few hours at most. You will have plenty of time in training to learn. But I recommend crj oral guide. Well worth the money.
No airline training is easy. Come prepared. Say good bye to your significant other for 3 months.
No airline training is easy. Come prepared. Say good bye to your significant other for 3 months.
#833
You guys do realize that PSA has the worst reserve rules in the industry right?
Sinse your first year maybe 2nd is going to be on reserve, why don't you pick a company that at least has decent rules? It's been said a million times here, there are plenty of valid concerns that you should really think long and hard about. Commuting to DAY or TYS the night before, working for 5 days then trying to get home the following day is exhausting. You've been warned.
Sinse your first year maybe 2nd is going to be on reserve, why don't you pick a company that at least has decent rules? It's been said a million times here, there are plenty of valid concerns that you should really think long and hard about. Commuting to DAY or TYS the night before, working for 5 days then trying to get home the following day is exhausting. You've been warned.
#834
On Reserve
Joined: Jul 2011
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You guys do realize that PSA has the worst reserve rules in the industry right?
Sinse your first year maybe 2nd is going to be on reserve, why don't you pick a company that at least has decent rules? It's been said a million times here, there are plenty of valid concerns that you should really think long and hard about. Commuting to DAY or TYS the night before, working for 5 days then trying to get home the following day is exhausting. You've been warned.
Sinse your first year maybe 2nd is going to be on reserve, why don't you pick a company that at least has decent rules? It's been said a million times here, there are plenty of valid concerns that you should really think long and hard about. Commuting to DAY or TYS the night before, working for 5 days then trying to get home the following day is exhausting. You've been warned.
#835
What airline reserve schedule doesn't suck? I haven't talked to anyone that enjoys reserve anywhere. Airline reserve schedules at any carrier besides PSA may be the lesser of two evils, that's true, but reserves sucks no matter where you go. It's just a matter of what sucks less. Things at PSA "COULD" change however, with a new contract in the works. We shall see.
#836
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Joined: Jul 2006
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How about if you live in base? I know CLT is senior and the recent new-hires have all gotten DAY or TYS. I'm single, young(er), little debt so I would probably just most to TYS or DAY. I'm sure it must suck for someone commuting, with a family and a mortgage. Although what about the single, 23 year old living in base?
#837
Mesa even gets paid for HOT reserve. PSA does not.
Mesa HOT Rsv pays off only if you break guarantee, which is 76(ish) hours. Ie if you are on HOT Rsv for an entire bid doing 8 hour shifts each day on, they will only "credit" you 74(ish) hours as each day worth 3.9 hrs. Paid? Yes. Worthwhile? Depends on your view at the airport.
#838
For those who don't know the lingo...
HOT reserve or Ready Reserve is where you go to the airport and wait around for scheduling to give you a trip. You may or may not fly. Times are either 5am-3pm or 2pm-midnight. If yoiu are on reserve sitting at home then scheduling can call you up and tell you that you are on Ready Reserve...And they will start the 10hrs when you get there. Your duty day cannot exceed 14 scheduled hours.
PSA does not give credit for Ready Reserve. Reserves get paid 72hrs/month pretty much regardless of what you do. You can fly 69hrs and spend the rest of your time on Ready Reserve and not get paid anything additional.
Most airlines give a credit for sitting HOT Reserve. ie: TSA/MESA/Express Jet to name a few. PSA is not one of those. And PSA's 10 hrs is the longest.
Same goes for regular reserve. PSA has a 1.5hr callout for regular reserve. Once scheduling calls you, you have 1.5hrs to get to the gate of your flight. 1hr if you are based in TYS.
CLT is becoming a concern because it takes at least 30min to get from the parking lot to the crew room. That's if you time the busses right. SO you have 1 hour to S/S/S and get to the airport. Not a lot of time.
If you do not get called while you are on regular reserve then you credit ZERO. You are on call for free. Although you do get your 72hrs of pay even if you fly ZERO hrs. (Not likely).
The hard part at PSA is the early first day reserves. 5am start (4am TYS). And the late finishes on Day 5. Could be as late as midnight.
If your day finished past 2am (Last day) then you get 6hrs of pay above 72hrs. This may happen 2 times a year.
Reserve schedules at PSA are 5 on 2 off 5 on 2 off 5 on 3 off 5 on 3 off. Or a combo of those. You will work 20 days/month. 10 off. If you have a week of vacation then you will get 13-14 days off total for that month. Vacations run Sunday thru Saturday.
Pay for first year F/O's is approx $20,736 not including per diem. You may get $4000 per diem the first year. Count on spending at least half that on food for the road.
My advice would be to take the regional job that is closest to home. You will need the support of your family and friends. But there are good regionals that maybe worth commuting for. It's your choice. You've been warned.
HOT reserve or Ready Reserve is where you go to the airport and wait around for scheduling to give you a trip. You may or may not fly. Times are either 5am-3pm or 2pm-midnight. If yoiu are on reserve sitting at home then scheduling can call you up and tell you that you are on Ready Reserve...And they will start the 10hrs when you get there. Your duty day cannot exceed 14 scheduled hours.
PSA does not give credit for Ready Reserve. Reserves get paid 72hrs/month pretty much regardless of what you do. You can fly 69hrs and spend the rest of your time on Ready Reserve and not get paid anything additional.
Most airlines give a credit for sitting HOT Reserve. ie: TSA/MESA/Express Jet to name a few. PSA is not one of those. And PSA's 10 hrs is the longest.
Same goes for regular reserve. PSA has a 1.5hr callout for regular reserve. Once scheduling calls you, you have 1.5hrs to get to the gate of your flight. 1hr if you are based in TYS.
CLT is becoming a concern because it takes at least 30min to get from the parking lot to the crew room. That's if you time the busses right. SO you have 1 hour to S/S/S and get to the airport. Not a lot of time.
If you do not get called while you are on regular reserve then you credit ZERO. You are on call for free. Although you do get your 72hrs of pay even if you fly ZERO hrs. (Not likely).
The hard part at PSA is the early first day reserves. 5am start (4am TYS). And the late finishes on Day 5. Could be as late as midnight.
If your day finished past 2am (Last day) then you get 6hrs of pay above 72hrs. This may happen 2 times a year.
Reserve schedules at PSA are 5 on 2 off 5 on 2 off 5 on 3 off 5 on 3 off. Or a combo of those. You will work 20 days/month. 10 off. If you have a week of vacation then you will get 13-14 days off total for that month. Vacations run Sunday thru Saturday.
Pay for first year F/O's is approx $20,736 not including per diem. You may get $4000 per diem the first year. Count on spending at least half that on food for the road.
My advice would be to take the regional job that is closest to home. You will need the support of your family and friends. But there are good regionals that maybe worth commuting for. It's your choice. You've been warned.
#839
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Anybody that shows up for a class date at PSA has no right to complain about ANYTHING, EVER, for as long as they work here. PSA is easily the worst jet operating regional in the industry and that's not going to change anytime in the next couple of years. Everyone has been warned. I used to ignore posts like this and just shrug them off as the poster being just another negative burned out d!ck. I was wrong. PSA has no future. This airline will either be sold off or liquidated when Airways merges in a couple of years. If you have a choice, don't go anywhere that is tied to US Airways.
#840
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jun 2010
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Hmmmmm how about the few positives here?
I got my own room during training! Wait wait the company actually paid for hotel and paid new hires during training with 24/7 per diem.
PSA was never late on my paychecks.
$350 uniform allowance annually after first year, 1.5x pay for working on day off.
Good amounts of decent legs 1.5 hour plus flights although we have our share of 6 legs a day.
Good maintenance in general, which is very important.
Good crew at least 97% of the pilots with a few oddballs.
Less people moving laterally to another regional or straight out quitting than most other regionals. Which means many other regionals are even worse. I don't know anyone that's happy at a regional. We just have to hope to get out as soon as we can.
Most that are already at PSA or soon to be future new hires will have an opportunity to goto majors or fractional if they choose to in the next few years.
Our contract is not the worse but it's in the lower, not so good category. At least for the reserves that is. Senior guys here are pretty content from what I see. Most of us won't be here long enough to see the new contract.
A lot faster to upgrade than to goto a regional with 3000 pilots.
I got my own room during training! Wait wait the company actually paid for hotel and paid new hires during training with 24/7 per diem.
PSA was never late on my paychecks.
$350 uniform allowance annually after first year, 1.5x pay for working on day off.
Good amounts of decent legs 1.5 hour plus flights although we have our share of 6 legs a day.
Good maintenance in general, which is very important.
Good crew at least 97% of the pilots with a few oddballs.
Less people moving laterally to another regional or straight out quitting than most other regionals. Which means many other regionals are even worse. I don't know anyone that's happy at a regional. We just have to hope to get out as soon as we can.
Most that are already at PSA or soon to be future new hires will have an opportunity to goto majors or fractional if they choose to in the next few years.
Our contract is not the worse but it's in the lower, not so good category. At least for the reserves that is. Senior guys here are pretty content from what I see. Most of us won't be here long enough to see the new contract.
A lot faster to upgrade than to goto a regional with 3000 pilots.
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