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Old 06-02-2015 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
The delivery schedule changed once already. You really think it isn't changing again? You have an attrition problem, a training bubble, lack of qualified pilots to upgrade now, and your class sizes have shrunk by 1/3rd already too. The handwriting is on the wall. The first batch will be less than your current schedule shows, and the last batch will be delayed longer also.
We'll see who's right soon enough.
Yes you are correct, the schedule has changed before... It was changed because PSA was doing so bad that American gave us 24 additional 900. The handwriting is on the wall allright, but I think you're reading it wrong.

I'm not sure if your MO is to inflate PSA's hiccups, or that you are saying things while being completely uninformed. Either way, I feel bad for you.
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Old 06-02-2015 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
The delivery schedule changed once already. You really think it isn't changing again? You have an attrition problem, a training bubble, lack of qualified pilots to upgrade now, and your class sizes have shrunk by 1/3rd already too. The handwriting is on the wall. The first batch will be less than your current schedule shows, and the last batch will be delayed longer also.
We'll see who's right soon enough.
I wouldn't call 30 to 25 1/3 of the class, which was done on purpose to help the training bubble.
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Old 06-02-2015 | 12:20 PM
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So about that PSA flow.......? I thought Doug said he would fix that for you guys?
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Old 06-02-2015 | 12:45 PM
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So when are we supposed to hear about the "Big Announcement"?
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Old 06-02-2015 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Irishblackbird
So when are we supposed to hear about the "Big Announcement"?
I'm surprised you guys didn't hear? I would have thought we would have heard from angry Envoy pilots by this point.
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Old 06-03-2015 | 10:26 AM
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what are the latest rumors today...i heard 175/900 to go to aa within 2 years....dont buy it though...
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Old 06-03-2015 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy
what are the latest rumors today...i heard 175/900 to go to aa within 2 years....dont buy it though...
I heard we are all going to get mainline max captain pay...
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Old 06-03-2015 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 3inthegreen
So about that PSA flow.......? I thought Doug said he would fix that for you guys?
Unless psa gives up the SAP, it won't happen

Edit.. I HOPE you guys don't have to give it up or make any changes

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Old 06-03-2015 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by PDTpilotXX
Unless psa gives up the SAP, it won't happen
That is funny, they came to an agreement last Friday without giving anything up. I guess we will all have to wait and see what the details are, I wonder if you guys predicting more concessions will even admit if you are wrong.
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Old 06-03-2015 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Irishblackbird
So when are we supposed to hear about the "Big Announcement"?
From our forum on Monday:
The NC briefed the MEC on the bullet points of the negotiations at the MEC meeting today. They will be meeting with management again to discuss a few details the MEC wanted discussed as well as to finalize the language of the agreement. Once that is accomplished the NC will present the final document to the MEC who will either decide whether to send it to the pilot group for vote. Until that time the details of the negotiations remain confidential so as to provide the NC the best opportunity to get the most out of the negotiations. If the bullet points were made public at this time management would get a great deal of insight based upon our reaction as a group. If we are happy with it, when the NC goes back a bunch of stuff gets pulled because they felt like they gave us too much. If we are mad, they may feel like nothing they offer will be good enough and cease talks. The best thing to do at this point in time is give the NC the time they need to take your elected representatives' input back and get us the best outcome possible. Speculation and criticism will only undermine the hard work these volunteers are putting in on your behalf.
Sorry for the long post but there may be some people on here at their first 121 carrier and do not know how the negotiation process goes.
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I'm surprised you guys didn't hear? I would have thought we would have heard from angry Envoy pilots by this point.
Cujo=Mason=RI, where are you man?

Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy
what are the latest rumors today...i heard 175/900 to go to aa within 2 years....dont buy it though...
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