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Old 09-26-2015 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by sublime259
Ok, keep telling yourself what you want to hear. I don't care about you or your opinions. You've already made your bed so you have to sleep in it. The reason I posted the details of that conversation was to give potential new-hires a glimpse into reality, should they choose to go to PSA. You asked for a detailed explanation so I gave it, what more do you want?
Half of the PSA list as less than 2 years 121. Of the half that has more than two years half have less than 5 years. So 25% of the total list has more than 5 years 121. Of that 25% half have been at PSA more than a year. Subtract the lifers and the refugee lifers and you'll see why there aren't droves of them moving the Atlas. It's not an HR stigma, it's statistics. What % of pilots at your company have 5 years 121?
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Old 09-26-2015 | 09:13 AM
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PSA pilots are moving on to a lot of different carriers...
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Old 09-26-2015 | 11:44 AM
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Tsa. Ejt. Skw. Eny. Awa. They sure are.
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Old 09-26-2015 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
Tsa. Ejt. Skw. Eny. Awa. They sure are.
Dumbest comment I've ever seen.
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Old 09-26-2015 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
Tsa. Ejt. Skw. Eny. Awa. They sure are.
More have left these carriers for PSA than have departed PSA for these carriers. I left TSA for PSA so, among other things, I wouldn't commute to ORD.

In my new-hire class two were from XJT. In my upgrade class, I was one of two from Comair. There were 16 of us. Six each were upgrading PSA first officers and Endeavor. One was Part 135 or corporate. The last one might have been Envoy.

Of the ones I know, no one wants to leave and return to their former employer. Many want to move on to mainline either through a flow or getting hired somewhere other than AA.

Quantify your observation.
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Old 09-26-2015 | 03:43 PM
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Are you guys seeing any ex-military getting picked up? I'm looking heavily at PSA (CLT domicile). I'm going to be getting out of the Navy in early 2018 with about 2300 hours, so I'm not sure I'll be getting many calls at all.
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Old 09-26-2015 | 03:49 PM
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Are you guys seeing any ex-military getting picked up? I'm looking heavily at PSA (CLT domicile). I'm going to be getting out of the Navy in early 2018 with about 2300 hours, so I'm not sure I'll be getting many calls at all.
You need a better perspective. Consider the next three years your opportunity to network and make yourself more competitive for a LCC or Legacy so you can be in a new hire class while on terminal leave.
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Old 09-26-2015 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TallFlyer
You need a better perspective. Consider the next three years your opportunity to network and make yourself more competitive for a LCC or Legacy so you can be in a new hire class while on terminal leave.
I'm doing all I possibly can to walk into a Major on terminal leave, but considering my next tour is a non-flying one I have to plan on not getting the call right away... Hence my question.
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Old 09-26-2015 | 07:04 PM
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If you have a desk job somewhere during your last 2-3 years of service, then a regional may be a good option for currency and recency of experience.

I interviewed with two AF retirees in July 14. Both were hired. One was a C-17 IP and the other a F/E, but I don't remember which airframe. Both wanted the 121 experience and the F/E needed the turbine time. I don't expect either of them to be at PSA too long.
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Old 09-26-2015 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jollygreen07
I'm doing all I possibly can to walk into a Major on terminal leave, but considering my next tour is a non-flying one I have to plan on not getting the call right away... Hence my question.
In 2018 you could certainly have your pick of any regional should you have to go that route.

That said, if you check out these charts you'll see that by then the Big 3 Legacies alone will be retiring 3-4 pilots a day.

It's worth repeating that over the next 15 years the Big 3 Legacy Airlines (AA, DAL, UAL) will have 30,000 retirements. I don't believe that there is a single person in the industry, from the CEO's suite on down, that knows what that's going to mean for the industry.

Nothing you don't already know I'm sure, but a well connected military aviator, even non-current, could still find themselves in a really good spot when they finally separate in that environment. Translation: your Christmas card list just got a lot longer. Good luck.

For some better advice than mine though, this is required reading.
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