Aviation Induced Divorce Syndrome Questions
#41
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2014
Position: E175 FO
Posts: 114
I'm at a regional and have been through a divorce. It all depends on your wife. While my marriage didn't end to AIDS, I was working a 91 job 24/7 on-call at the time. It drove her nuts that I couldn't ever commit to anything socially / vacations etc. She didn't work and with me gone all the time and monotony setting in she got interested in other men.
My belief is that 121 is the way to go. Don't commute. Having days off which are yours helps a lot. But none of that will matter if she isn't a strong, independent woman.
My current situation is a LTR with a successful self-employed woman in real estate. I'm gone long enough for her to miss me and home short enough she doesn't get annoyed. I make a point of planning fun things for us when I am home and we travel.
My belief is that 121 is the way to go. Don't commute. Having days off which are yours helps a lot. But none of that will matter if she isn't a strong, independent woman.
My current situation is a LTR with a successful self-employed woman in real estate. I'm gone long enough for her to miss me and home short enough she doesn't get annoyed. I make a point of planning fun things for us when I am home and we travel.
#42
Is that a trick question?
She also enjoys the comfortable living the compensation affords us. I currently live in domicile, and she enjoys me being OFF, really OFF, on days off, which comprise about half of the month. The vast majority of my peers enjoy the freedom of living anywhere in the world they want, even moving whenever the mood strikes them, and continuing to work for the same employer.
Spend less time asking strangers on an internet forum and more time talking to your wife. No two experiences are exactly alike, and the only opinion you should be interested in, other than your own, is hers.
Why not find a job where you're home half the time and at least participate in the rearing of your son that half?
How about her monthly trips out of town? Were those also written into the vows?
Life comes with changes, challenges, and opportunities that neither of you could foresee when you said, "I do." If those vows were contingent on some preset limitations or artificial constructs, then you should honor them. If your vows were along the line of this day forward, better/worse, sickness/health, richer/poorer, until death do us part, both of you should be able to adapt to unforeseen choices and adventures.
-Neither of us are controlling.
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The problem I foresee is:
She views me becoming a pilot as pursuing a discretionary hobby instead of pursuing a career that would benefit our family in the long run. She treats me like I want to quit my digital marketing career to become ski patrol or something fun for me (and a giant burden for her) that won’t pay well or offer long term career prospects.
This makes me hesitant because I know becoming a pilot will be challenging. I will have to study hard to get ratings and pass check rides. Plus, I know regional training will require a lot of studying. We live in DEN and I’m sure I would need to commute for a bit at some point. I think it would be hard on me if my wife wants to prove my career change was a bad idea and treats me like I was playing video games when I vent after a hard day.
Unless she wants the same ultimate goal, it will be harder for you, and, you're right, she may take advantage of any setback to torture you for upsetting the status quo.
But if you can convince her that this will lead to a better future for your family and get her to support you through the tough times so you can make it to the good times, it doesn't matter what a bunch of strangers on APC said.
Try coming home from work and telling her you were just fired.
After you get the initial reaction, tell her you weren't actually fired, but you could have been. You really don't have control over that, and neither does she, for that matter. Life is full of uncertainties. We deal with them as they arise.
You DO have control over when you apply, and if seniority matters to her, the earlier, the better.
Oh, and don't worry about how many people of so-and-so category got divorced. 100% of divorces can be traced to marriage, but so what. You can only be concerned with 1 marriage, your own. Talk to your wife, listen to your wife, pray with your wife, and decide together what's best for YOUR family. Then do that.
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#43
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2011
Posts: 209
Anyone else laugh when they read this?
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As for the original poster. I've got nothing for you. I be single, no kids with plenty of man toys. Mortgage paid off and after bills/investments are paid/funded each month a modest amount of spending cash to blow (you can only save so much).
My married friends hate me. The biggest problem I have is deciding which strippie is going to bounce on my lap. The blonde or the brunette. I've learned to stay away from the redheads. First world single guy problems my friend.
PS married guys, don't call/text your single guy friends at 7am. I know you had to get your little germ factories off to school early but I'm not getting up until 10.
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As for the original poster. I've got nothing for you. I be single, no kids with plenty of man toys. Mortgage paid off and after bills/investments are paid/funded each month a modest amount of spending cash to blow (you can only save so much).
My married friends hate me. The biggest problem I have is deciding which strippie is going to bounce on my lap. The blonde or the brunette. I've learned to stay away from the redheads. First world single guy problems my friend.
PS married guys, don't call/text your single guy friends at 7am. I know you had to get your little germ factories off to school early but I'm not getting up until 10.
Last edited by Sam York; 03-31-2017 at 01:51 PM.
#44
Anyone else laugh when they read this?
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As for the original poster. I've got nothing for you. I be single, no kids with plenty of man toys. Mortgage paid off and after bills/investments are paid/funded each month a modest amount of spending cash to blow (you can only save so much).
My married friends hate me. The biggest problem I have is deciding which strippie is going to bounce on my lap. The blonde or the brunette. I've learned to stay away from the redheads. First world single guy problems my friend.
PS married guys, don't call/text your single guy friends at 7am. I know you had to get your little germ factories off to school early but I'm not getting up until 10.
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As for the original poster. I've got nothing for you. I be single, no kids with plenty of man toys. Mortgage paid off and after bills/investments are paid/funded each month a modest amount of spending cash to blow (you can only save so much).
My married friends hate me. The biggest problem I have is deciding which strippie is going to bounce on my lap. The blonde or the brunette. I've learned to stay away from the redheads. First world single guy problems my friend.
PS married guys, don't call/text your single guy friends at 7am. I know you had to get your little germ factories off to school early but I'm not getting up until 10.
#45
Different strokes for different folks. I do like coming home to my family though.
#46
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Q400, B-737
Posts: 324
Anyone else laugh when they read this?
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As for the original poster. I've got nothing for you. I be single, no kids with plenty of man toys. Mortgage paid off and after bills/investments are paid/funded each month a modest amount of spending cash to blow (you can only save so much).
My married friends hate me. The biggest problem I have is deciding which strippie is going to bounce on my lap. The blonde or the brunette. I've learned to stay away from the redheads. First world single guy problems my friend.
PS married guys, don't call/text your single guy friends at 7am. I know you had to get your little germ factories off to school early but I'm not getting up until 10.
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As for the original poster. I've got nothing for you. I be single, no kids with plenty of man toys. Mortgage paid off and after bills/investments are paid/funded each month a modest amount of spending cash to blow (you can only save so much).
My married friends hate me. The biggest problem I have is deciding which strippie is going to bounce on my lap. The blonde or the brunette. I've learned to stay away from the redheads. First world single guy problems my friend.
PS married guys, don't call/text your single guy friends at 7am. I know you had to get your little germ factories off to school early but I'm not getting up until 10.
Thanks everybody, for your well thought-out, considerate replies. I think the OP received the advice he was looking for. This is a helluva job, and my hat's off to all of our significant others who support us in it, without referring to it as some kind of "hobby".
Cheers.
#47
You need to change you Number of Posts to Show Per Page to something more manageable. I'm only on Page 2 here.
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#48
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,267
Anyone else laugh when they read this?
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As for the original poster. I've got nothing for you. I be single, no kids with plenty of man toys. Mortgage paid off and after bills/investments are paid/funded each month a modest amount of spending cash to blow (you can only save so much).
My married friends hate me. The biggest problem I have is deciding which strippie is going to bounce on my lap. The blonde or the brunette. I've learned to stay away from the redheads. First world single guy problems my friend.
PS married guys, don't call/text your single guy friends at 7am. I know you had to get your little germ factories off to school early but I'm not getting up until 10.
---------------------------------------------------------
As for the original poster. I've got nothing for you. I be single, no kids with plenty of man toys. Mortgage paid off and after bills/investments are paid/funded each month a modest amount of spending cash to blow (you can only save so much).
My married friends hate me. The biggest problem I have is deciding which strippie is going to bounce on my lap. The blonde or the brunette. I've learned to stay away from the redheads. First world single guy problems my friend.
PS married guys, don't call/text your single guy friends at 7am. I know you had to get your little germ factories off to school early but I'm not getting up until 10.
#49
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2019
Posts: 205
I’m contemplating a career change going CFI to regional path. I don't want this decision to be hard on my marriage.
My background:
-I’m 36 and have a 15 month old son.
-We’re not poor, but not rich. The career change wouldn’t cause us to worry about missing a mortgage payment but we would have to reign in spending.
-My wife works in consulting and has a relatively busy schedule.
-In my current job (digital marketing), I work 50 hours per week and am on a “digital leash” which keeps me from being fully present when I’m home (and I travel a few days per month). I'd of course be away from home more nights per month being a pilot, but would possibly benefit from the walkaway job.
Questions to regional pilots around my age (especially career changers):
-Has your spouse been supportive of your career?
-Does having a spouse with a positive attitude help? Or, is aviation just hard on a marriage no matter what?
-Are there any positives to being a pilot that your spouse likes? Or, is it all bad?
-Any other wisdom or advice to share?
My background:
-I’m 36 and have a 15 month old son.
-We’re not poor, but not rich. The career change wouldn’t cause us to worry about missing a mortgage payment but we would have to reign in spending.
-My wife works in consulting and has a relatively busy schedule.
-In my current job (digital marketing), I work 50 hours per week and am on a “digital leash” which keeps me from being fully present when I’m home (and I travel a few days per month). I'd of course be away from home more nights per month being a pilot, but would possibly benefit from the walkaway job.
Questions to regional pilots around my age (especially career changers):
-Has your spouse been supportive of your career?
-Does having a spouse with a positive attitude help? Or, is aviation just hard on a marriage no matter what?
-Are there any positives to being a pilot that your spouse likes? Or, is it all bad?
-Any other wisdom or advice to share?
What would help is, have complete transparency about the aviation industry with her and how seniority works and how large that plays a part in your QOL.
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