Originally Posted by Groundpointfife

For those on the fence about whether the 1500 hour rule going away would be a good thing, think about this...

If you are currently flying for a regional, places like United have started to do CPP, including ATCA in Arizona. Right now CPP pilots have to meet ATP requirements by flight instructing, should congress go back on the 1500 hour requirement, students in the CPP program may be eligible for hire at UA with Commercial pilot certificates. Assume you are not flying for a regional with CPP, you could have thousands of hours, possibly 121 TPIC and get hired after a freshly minted commercial pilot, good for the guy who got hired with the commercial, but think about how all the current 121 pilots will feel. I imagine the same would apply to AA and DL, but UA is a known quantity where they are actively taking 1500 hour pilots (with zero turbine time) and putting them into mainline jets ahead of current, active regional pilots.

Airlines can choose their own hiring practices, what makes anyone think that they would like to hurt their regional lift, when they can easily keep people flying jets for less by taking fresh commercial pilot certificates. Of course they will continue to hire experienced pilots, but it is like the dilemma of getting hired to AA outside the flow, the smaller the percentage of off the street hires, the lower your chances of getting selected are.

On the regional side of the situation, it will allow a pilot to get from zero to fresh commercial pilot certificate within 6 months...then hired at a regional. What has caused wages to rise in the regional industry is that there have not been enough people willing to fly for $16-22/hr. I say willing because there have been pilots due to 9/11 and the lost decade that hung their hat up and chose another career.

Originally Posted by Jeff Spicoli

Seriously. The Air Force has issues they need to address to retain pilots.

I'd also really like to get an official reason why mil trained pilots have such an inside track to the majors. Not just the superior training line. There's got to be another reason HRs number 1 preference is a mil trained pilot.


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Originally Posted by sflpilot

Going back to 250 will just buy more time until the regionals implode. Very few Americans are going in to aviation these days because it is so unattractive at the regional level. If you were able to start your career at a major more people would be interested.

Originally Posted by PilotDil

Does anyone knows 121 FO minimum changes to what after the new bill?. Any idea about Regional hiring would be?

Originally Posted by Duesenflieger

Nevjets, I agree. Ample human factors studies conducted to explore the subject of situation awareness and aeronautical decision-making by way of experiments strongly indicated that pilot expertise leads to superior situation awareness and improved decision-making in the event of emergencies owing to the augmentation of the ability to perceive and process environmental cues. Experienced pilots have a better idea of what to look for, when it should be sought and how to make decisions based off of sensory cues. A 1500 hr pilot may be thus much safer than a 250 hr pilot whom the RAA wants so desperately to hire in this epoch. I know that this would be common sense to most, but I am just pointing out that it is solidified by past and current research into SA and ADM.

Originally Posted by CBreezy

It doesn't change. It just directs the FAA to investigate the safety implications of lowering the time. It'll be a year or more.

Originally Posted by AnotherWriter

Never discount the value of getting a known product. A mil trained pilot is a very well known quantity with a long track record of being trainable and being successful within X company.

That isn't to say that RJ drivers are different, however there is more variation (for better or potentially for worse) within the training history of a civilian trained pilot than a mil trained one.

My 2cent theory anyway.