rickair7777

Sucks to be them, but you can't really expect the company to not hire needed pilots under those circumstances.

towhook

This is how I have been thinking about it.

I personally know one guy who just left for training at Mesa. He was offered a CA position on the Dash 8 straight out of a year of freight. I am looking forward to hearing how this turns out for him and excited that these opportunities are now coming into existence.

rickair7777

Nice avatar...lemme guess where greece is

XtremeF150

So what do you think they should have done. Cancel some flights to protect your upgrade. I tell you what for those of you that ran out of instructing early that was your choice. As you said before timing is everything and I guess yours was off or you would have been able to upgrade right? I usually try to stay away from posts like this but attacking someone that is MUCH more qualified when he comes into the regionals is not what we need to be doing to fix today's industry. I guess I would be an evil person in your eyes because I took a street CA position. Of course I probably had more hours when I took the left seat than most have after 2 years in the regionals. I found my first regional job with over 3000 TT and over 1500 multi, of which about 1200 was PIC turbine. So I would say my 3+ years as a flight instructor paid off. Of course like you told the other guy I guess we can assume you wouldn't have taken the CA job if it was offered because you would have felt it wasn't right?...I doubt it. When those low timers get their hours up then they can upgrade and I will bumped one spot lower. I am fine with this as I know that is how it works, but I will not be angry at the company nor do I think they should stop these ppl from upgrading because it inconvienences me.

btwissel

there were 14 upgrades in the Jan class for TSA. 13 finished (one got on with Allegiant.) the mins for upgrade have been dropped by 1000hrs to 3000TT and 2000 with the Company

and the nice thing about street captains is as soon as i upgrade, they get pushed down the seniority list and get the crap lines i would've had...

goarmy

things not working well at AE for ya Labbats? Im dead serious thinking about leaving AE for GJ.......the hype is 100% BS( its all regional young crybabies) ......the CA at GJ are getting hired EVERYWHERE!

AV8ER

Chill out man, I'm not saying whether its ok or not, and I'm not passing judgement. Just a statement as to how it was taken at the wonderfully well managed TSA a few years ago, from what I hear (like i said in the previous, correct me if I'm wrong, TSA guys who were there at the time. Just what they guys I've flown with have told me.)

labbats

It's actually doing good, holding overnights in my hometown on a good line now. But even if everything goes my way with the Letter 3 business, I'm looking at 2 years to prop captain. Every once in a while I get itchy and look at other opportunities, but just can't seem to pull the trigger and go.

As for GJ, I just can't see myself ever going there. PIC is nice and all that, but the stigma would really bother me. Eagle has its problems, but at least I can tell people where I work without shame.

Pilotpip

You guys kill me. HK wins every time you guys do the TSA vs GJ stuff. Here's an idea, DON'T WORK FOR EITHER, go somewhere that pays more in line with what you guys deserve.

newgrad411

As far as the mesa thing goes: I'm not sure if were hiring straight into the left seat of the dash anymore. Lots of recent hiring will result in upgrades for those already here. Not positive about that though.

Yes, the JFK thing is going away, but per the contract, they have to offer you a seat in the airplane that is replacing what you fly or you can take a different domecile.

As far as Mesa out west : GJT is senior, but DEN and PHX are very holdable. As long as your not one of the bottom 5-7 guys, you wont be flying reserve.