Lying pilot recruiters
04-16-2019 | 01:10 PM
#41
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The federal government definition of a major is by revenue, X billion $.
The industry itself considers majors to operate at least some NB aircraft, sell tickets, and operate under their own brand.
Legacies did interstate air service prior to deregulation. They use a hub and spoke model, to one degree or another.
Most regionals are actually FFD, flying in some legacies paint. There are few small branded commuters left.
The APC airline profiles reflect the "industry standard" definitions. We don't try to distinguish between national, LCC, ULCC as that is somewhat in the eye of the beholder.
The industry itself considers majors to operate at least some NB aircraft, sell tickets, and operate under their own brand.
Legacies did interstate air service prior to deregulation. They use a hub and spoke model, to one degree or another.
Most regionals are actually FFD, flying in some legacies paint. There are few small branded commuters left.
The APC airline profiles reflect the "industry standard" definitions. We don't try to distinguish between national, LCC, ULCC as that is somewhat in the eye of the beholder.
Thanks, I guess? I’m not sure if you were just adding on or what. I was responding to someone who said LCCs weren’t majors.
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04-16-2019 | 01:45 PM
#42
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Agreed. If it were just revenue, many ACMI carriers would be listed as major airlines.
Likewise, simply flying the same size aircraft does not a major airline make.
All of the legacy/major airlines are global airlines.
An LCC that does a few Mexico, South America, or similar destinations is not a global major airline
We have
legacy/major
National / LCC
Regional
ACMI (can’t say cargo, since there are passenger only ACMI)
A Frontier, Spirit, Allegiant, Sun Country and the rest of the National LCC’s are not legacy or major airlines.
An example. People still run to leave a Frontier, Allegiant or Spirit when a Delta, United or American calls....
they just aren’t the same category carrier.
Likewise, simply flying the same size aircraft does not a major airline make.
All of the legacy/major airlines are global airlines.
An LCC that does a few Mexico, South America, or similar destinations is not a global major airline
We have
legacy/major
National / LCC
Regional
ACMI (can’t say cargo, since there are passenger only ACMI)
A Frontier, Spirit, Allegiant, Sun Country and the rest of the National LCC’s are not legacy or major airlines.
An example. People still run to leave a Frontier, Allegiant or Spirit when a Delta, United or American calls....
they just aren’t the same category carrier.
04-16-2019 | 02:19 PM
#43
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Historically looks better than any guaranteed interview to me. Plus I still apply just like everyone else, so idk why the flow gets hates on when it surely gets people in and doesn’t prevent people from going anywhere else anyways
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04-16-2019 | 04:03 PM
#44
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Historically looks better than any guaranteed interview to me. Plus I still apply just like everyone else, so idk why the flow gets hates on when it surely gets people in and doesn’t prevent people from going anywhere else anyways
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04-16-2019 | 10:55 PM
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Then they are older or not looking at total career earnings. Not to mention airline size, and equipment, base and global trip variety.
04-16-2019 | 10:57 PM
#48
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Hi everyone! Long time reader first time poster. I'm a student at a college with many regional airlines visiting campus to recruit pilots. Every recruiter I talk to has the ability to make their airline sound like paradise, with crazy benefits and amazing company culture. They promise quick upgrade times, industry leading bonuses, and flow to a major. How do I know when to trust these recruiters, as I feel they are just feeding me blatant lies and not giving the whole picture.
Thanks!
Thanks!
04-17-2019 | 03:54 AM
#50
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One of the most important things to do when researching what airline to work for is getting objective opinions from people who are already there. If you can’t offer a little CRM to someone like that, maybe it’s you who doesn’t belong in a cockpit.
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