AA Flow-Thrus Should Require a Degree
06-11-2019 | 08:05 AM
#101
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And the more retiring military in their forties they can keep putting ahead of the regional flow guys at the major, the lower they can keep the average longevity pay down at the major too. Don’t believe for a second that the green eyeshade guys in accounting don’t calculate how much that saves down to the last dollar either.
06-13-2019 | 03:50 AM
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No, it can’t. It’s part of the contract and the pilot union would have to agree to removing it or American would have to go bankrupt. The later is what happened to the American Eagle pilots back in the day.
06-13-2019 | 06:57 AM
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...able/81035522/
You can CLAIM anything you want, but flow agreements are written in smoke.
06-13-2019 | 07:04 AM
#104
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And how hard is a quickie bankruptcy? Republic did one while they were still operating at a profit just to get rid of 50-seat flying contracts that were costing them a little profit. All it takes is a little creative accounting as a willing bankruptcy court judge:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...able/81035522/
You can CLAIM anything you want, but flow agreements are written in smoke.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...able/81035522/
You can CLAIM anything you want, but flow agreements are written in smoke.
06-13-2019 | 07:08 AM
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American Airlines should change their flow programs to require their regional pilots to have a 4-year degree before they are eligible to flow.
The benefit is obvious: it would make American pilots more educated like Delta pilots which, in turn, would make AA a better, smarter company. Also, AA wholly-owned pilots should be required to wear hats.
The benefit is obvious: it would make American pilots more educated like Delta pilots which, in turn, would make AA a better, smarter company. Also, AA wholly-owned pilots should be required to wear hats.
06-13-2019 | 08:01 AM
#106
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It's not that simple, it is a Letter of Agreement in the pilot contract so to remove or amend that agreement requires the pilot union's endorsement as well. I am not worried about that conversation even starting because it would be operational suicide. Management has already had to throw money at all 3 WOs over the past 3 years to stem retention and help recruitment, if they took away our biggest motivator for staying in the middle of a worsening pilot shortage the operation would assuredly implode as pilots left for anywhere and everywhere.
06-13-2019 | 08:21 AM
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It's not that simple, it is a Letter of Agreement in the pilot contract so to remove or amend that agreement requires the pilot union's endorsement as well. I am not worried about that conversation even starting because it would be operational suicide. Management has already had to throw money at all 3 WOs over the past 3 years to stem retention and help recruitment, if they took away our biggest motivator for staying in the middle of a worsening pilot shortage the operation would assuredly implode as pilots left for anywhere and everywhere.
06-13-2019 | 07:52 PM
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Okay? My post was in reference to the idea that the flow would be outright cancelled, not sure what the intention of yours is - especially as this LOA gets us marginally higher rates on 50 seat flying than SkyBest....
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