AA Flow-Thrus Should Require a Degree
06-14-2019, 01:30 AM
#111
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Originally Posted by word302
It's a gimmick to keep your wages suppressed, nothing more.
06-14-2019, 06:44 AM
#112
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Originally Posted by 60av8tor
While I agree a flow isn’t the end all be all, and current new hires will not get the benefit of several years ago, this sentiment isn’t 100% accurate. There are guys at PSA making pretty decent coin who will flow at 5ish years. Pretty nice if you ask me - a little more than wage suppression. Lots of guys with lots of experience not getting the call.
Also, our soft pay rules suck. Even though our pay rates at PSA are similar to Republic and Endeavor... they’re still making 25-50% more than PSA pilots. The day the AA wholly owneds earn the same as the other top players is the day the flow ceases to exist. The only point of the flow is to keep costs low.
06-17-2019, 11:16 AM
#113
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Originally Posted by PhantomHawk
Met Yeager when I was a kid. Even at 8 years old, I could tell he was a bit of an a$$. That opinion was shared by every adult male who had invited him to be at Miramar’s Air Show that year.
06-17-2019, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by No Land 3
Heard exactly the same thing of the Hudson guy.
06-17-2019, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PontiusPilot
So... anecdotal and not actually supported by anything.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-intuitive-parent/201703/the-emerging-crisis-in-critical-thinking
06-20-2019, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Xjrstreetcar
"Similarly, in their book, “Academically Adrift: Limited Learning on College Campuses,” Richard Arum and Josipa Roksa studied twenty-four hundred college students at twenty-four different universities over a four-year period2. They reported that critical thinking and other skills such as writing were no longer progressing during college as compared to previous generations of students."
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-intuitive-parent/201703/the-emerging-crisis-in-critical-thinking
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-intuitive-parent/201703/the-emerging-crisis-in-critical-thinking
06-20-2019, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SSlow
Agreed. Plus it keeps their contracted labor source somewhat adequately staffed in the meantime to fuel profits and keep investors happy. What is really going to suck for these poor folks is when the retirement flood gates open and the strong economy is still humming along. At that point AA will either have to A) flow everyone (spoiler alert: that will never happen), or B) merge with one of the smaller LCC/ULCC airlines - the more likely scenario for a multitude of reasons.
At that point the "flow thru" will be more like a "stay put in your RJ for another five years" and all of the 90s babies will be p*ssed because for the first time in their careers things won't be all rainbows and butterflies.
At that point the "flow thru" will be more like a "stay put in your RJ for another five years" and all of the 90s babies will be p*ssed because for the first time in their careers things won't be all rainbows and butterflies.
07-02-2019, 07:21 AM
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I agree, without collage how would we have gotten fine airmen like Chuck Yeager, Bob Hoover, Wright Brothers, and Eddie Rickenbacker....................................
The idea that Collage is the only place to get an education is a very obtuse mentality. Rickenbacker never even made it to highschool.
The idea that Collage is the only place to get an education is a very obtuse mentality. Rickenbacker never even made it to highschool.
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