United Aviate
11-26-2019 | 11:06 AM
#172
New Hire
Joined: Nov 2019
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Clean record (couple 141 fails that supposedly don’t matter, but they still ask about them and want you to explain why you look like you are a horrible pilot. So still they still judge you on NON part 121 failures.)
Thought I did well in both HR and the Technical, however I got a TBNT email after approx 3 weeks.
“Dire pilot shortage” guys.
Enjoy.
Thought I did well in both HR and the Technical, however I got a TBNT email after approx 3 weeks.
“Dire pilot shortage” guys.
Enjoy.
11-26-2019 | 12:51 PM
#174
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Of course you did. Because you don't even know the rules of Aviate.
You're United material because they'll walk all over you because you don't know or won't care about your contract.
If you get a TBNT letter, YOU ARE OUT of Aviate.
AFAIK you can try off the street and I haven't heard of a time restriction on that but how likely do you think that is?
You got interviewed and didn't get hired. Everyone who didn't get a chance now goes ahead of you.
You work at a UAX carrier. Why would they cannibalize MORE of their own feed?
If you get turned down at Aviate, your best bet is to plan on another path until all of the Aviate hires go ahead of you or United comes up with another carrot.
Let's call the new program: "Flip!"
Heads or tails? You're HIRED!
You're United material because they'll walk all over you because you don't know or won't care about your contract.
If you get a TBNT letter, YOU ARE OUT of Aviate.
AFAIK you can try off the street and I haven't heard of a time restriction on that but how likely do you think that is?
You got interviewed and didn't get hired. Everyone who didn't get a chance now goes ahead of you.
You work at a UAX carrier. Why would they cannibalize MORE of their own feed?
If you get turned down at Aviate, your best bet is to plan on another path until all of the Aviate hires go ahead of you or United comes up with another carrot.
Let's call the new program: "Flip!"
Heads or tails? You're HIRED!
11-26-2019 | 12:55 PM
#175
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Ideally, they'd still honor those 'old' hard skills/resume points, SOME personality, and a good chunk of consideration given to employees who recommend you.
But I think the mix is shifted to 'soft' skills/soft personality types. (No, that doesn't mean whoever reads this in particular, Frances, just an across the board sea change. So lighten up.)
11-26-2019 | 01:01 PM
#176
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Yeah, it's a tired old argument about being United material because you basically already ARE as far as the pubic is concerned.
The customer experience is much of the bottom line.
As a whole, when we are staffed, XJT beats United's own metrics.
So as a whole, as far as pilots are concerned, we would be an improvement if you hired ALL of us. OVERALL.
Then it follows that: if United REALLY IS hiring the cream of the crop from XJT, our performance is going to suffer...and United will ask why.
The customer experience is much of the bottom line.
As a whole, when we are staffed, XJT beats United's own metrics.
So as a whole, as far as pilots are concerned, we would be an improvement if you hired ALL of us. OVERALL.
Then it follows that: if United REALLY IS hiring the cream of the crop from XJT, our performance is going to suffer...and United will ask why.
11-26-2019 | 01:07 PM
#178
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Joined: Jul 2013
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If anyone is thinking of going to any of the United regionals because of this Aviate program, be careful as many good dudes are not getting offers. I believe this program is intended to help staff their regionals. Once you take that bonus, you are locked in for two years. Do your research!
And there's been more than a few from the CPP (pre AVAITE) as well that were complete head scratchers. It's not a one size fits all, BY ANY MEANS.
11-26-2019 | 01:28 PM
#179
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