Tipping Van Drivers
#511
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Either way, you’re going on the blocked list because I don’t find that you contribute anything of value to these forums.
#512
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I don’t do this anymore. It became a PITA. Some of us are instilled with frugal habits from a young age. I’m sorry you don’t see eye to eye with me on everything.
#513
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And I can use that word to describe the line much as I feel about this thread
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Use interminable to describe something that has or seems to have no end. Your math class. Your sister's violin recital. A thread on APC about tipping van drivers
#514
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Restaurants are bit different as the waitstaff don’t even get min wages, their income is heavily reliant on tips and bar tenders and bussers getting a percentage of those tips. Having working in that industry many years ago, it became apparent that I need to tip otherwise my waiter won’t make money I am pretty sure van drivers make more than your typical restaurant workers.
Back in 2001-2002, a waiter in a Jones’s Crab shack got paid 2.13/hr plus tips...... Let that sink in.
Back in 2001-2002, a waiter in a Jones’s Crab shack got paid 2.13/hr plus tips...... Let that sink in.
Blown away by some pilots on this thread.
My son has aspergers (now called social-pragmatic disorder). He'll never follow in my footsteps and fly mil or 121. He will drive vans. Giving is about helping the less advantaged vs some daily adjusted monetary value or long term net worth. Worship your stuff I guess. Maybe it comes down to how you value yourself.
I tip $5. SHOCKER! Over the holidays I tip more. Including minority folks cleaning up my table at the restaurants. Not because I have it, but because they need it more then I.
If this resonates with one young pilot then I'm glad I got on a soapbox.
My son has aspergers (now called social-pragmatic disorder). He'll never follow in my footsteps and fly mil or 121. He will drive vans. Giving is about helping the less advantaged vs some daily adjusted monetary value or long term net worth. Worship your stuff I guess. Maybe it comes down to how you value yourself.
I tip $5. SHOCKER! Over the holidays I tip more. Including minority folks cleaning up my table at the restaurants. Not because I have it, but because they need it more then I.
If this resonates with one young pilot then I'm glad I got on a soapbox.
#516
An increase in min wage will permanently eliminate some jobs, at some point people will just make their own coffee, mow their own grass, etc. Many min-wage jobs involve services which are are discretionary, not essential, and price-point drives business volume in a big way.
So you have to find the sweet spot where the net benefit to society outweighs the cost of the inevitable lost jobs. That equation varies by location, which means a federal min wage is probably over-kill, unless set to the LCD.
Also... it's a fallacy that you need to be able to raise a family of four as single mom on min wage. There are people who don't need or want a full-time professional career (students, seniors, non-primary breadwinners, etc), but rather some supplemental income. A high min wage basically bans a lot of those kinds of jobs.
#518
#519
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It’s a bit of a stretch to compare TAFB to working hours but with a 4 to 1 trip rig, that comes out to at least $11.59 (pretax, take home is too subjective) for every hour a first year FO is away from base.
#520
A better comparison would be gross pay per duty hour, which can actually get pretty low. Perhaps about half your published hourly rate, or even worse without rigs. That's why more seniority is better, so you can do longer legs and fewer of them. Also why transcons, over-water, and widebody flying is even better... you can get between 85% to 95% of your rate per duty hour.