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Old 05-19-2020 | 04:04 AM
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Who's goal is that? 9/11 drawdown was 75% three months later, 88% at 6-months. Great recession barely ever went below 90% from the twelve months leading into it. Unless CIVID19 spikes out of control again (not impossible, but with the whole world focused on it unlikely) I have a hard time seeing demand at only 50% seven months from now. Many people need to fly in order to pay their bills. People are still getting married, dying, getting sick, and many family members will chance it to be with their loved ones. Current demand levels are reflective of total economic shutdown, not the ongoing requirement of necessary travel...
And we have depression-era levels of unemployment too. Not to mention the people who do have money not spending it on traveling and vacations and saving it instead due to economic uncertainty.

I have access to data you don’t and I know much more than I post on APC. In a recent UK Virtual business conference they showed data that said that an almost overwhelming majority of people will not likely get on an airplane in the next 6 months. 50% by the end of 2020 and 75% by the end of 2021 is the goal.
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Old 05-19-2020 | 04:06 AM
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And we have depression-era levels of unemployment too. Not to mention the people who do have money not spending it on traveling and vacations and saving it instead due to economic uncertainty.

I have access to data you don’t and I know much more than I post on APC. In a recent UK Virtual business conference they showed data that said that an almost overwhelming majority of people will not likely get on an airplane in the next 6 months. 50% by the end of 2020 and 75% by the end of 2021 is the goal.
Here we go, the all mighty Chris Reed and his data. Again tell me why you’re still at a regional when you have all these connections?
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Old 05-19-2020 | 04:44 AM
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I have access to data you don’t and I know much more than I post on APC.
I am crying. Thank you for this Chris, my day is looking up already. Ohhhh boy

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I personally want to see you, Chrisreed, and Rick put some predictions out there for what the 2022 airline world looks like so that we can stop beating around the bush.
What you say you, accessor of classified data? Which airlines exist in 2022 and which don't? Please give us a glimpse into that brilliant hidden mind of yours
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Old 05-19-2020 | 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by sanicom3205
I am crying. Thank you for this Chris, my day is looking up already. Ohhhh boy



What you say you, accessor of classified data? Which airlines exist in 2022 and which don't? Please give us a glimpse into that brilliant hidden mind of yours
Did you just troll yourself?
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Old 05-19-2020 | 05:26 AM
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Did you just troll yourself?
Uhhhh, what? I quoted my own post to get him to answer my question that I asked several pages ago
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Old 05-19-2020 | 05:28 AM
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And we have depression-era levels of unemployment too. Not to mention the people who do have money not spending it on traveling and vacations and saving it instead due to economic uncertainty.

I have access to data you don’t and I know much more than I post on APC. In a recent UK Virtual business conference they showed data that said that an almost overwhelming majority of people will not likely get on an airplane in the next 6 months. 50% by the end of 2020 and 75% by the end of 2021 is the goal.
I tend to agree with most of this. I mean hell, my wife travels for FREE and won't get on a plane to go visit her family. This is something she would do regularly every couple of months prior to this. Her employment, a completely tourist/high end vacation property, still hasn't even contacted any of their employees to come back to work, let alone reopen the resort.

I think people are getting excited because they see airplanes with more people on them, but it is only due to a slight increase in new business and a whole bunch of consolidation. All it is going to take is one of these states that opens up to have a large spike and this all resets again.
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Old 05-19-2020 | 05:34 AM
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Here we go, the all mighty Chris Reed and his data. Again tell me why you’re still at a regional when you have all these connections?
I was close to flowing to AA and the job continuously improved. So I became complacent and decided not to stick with my original goal of, “get in get out”. Now I have very little faith in AAG’s ability to pull out of this and at best the flow just moved 4-5 years away and I’ve had an epiphany when it comes to choosing which company I want to work for. Probably not one saddled with record levels of debt.

I do much outside of the airlines and outside of aviation altogether. I can’t say what I do because it would be too revealing. But suffice to say I know what I know and I’ve been consistently right about all but 1 thing. And that 1 thing was in motion pre-Covid 19.
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Old 05-19-2020 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by sanicom3205
I am crying. Thank you for this Chris, my day is looking up already. Ohhhh boy



What you say you, accessor of classified data? Which airlines exist in 2022 and which don't? Please give us a glimpse into that brilliant hidden mind of yours
No one really knows yet. Consolidation at the regional level is a foregone conclusion in my opinion. All of the legacies likely make it through in one form or another. American being the big ? right now. A lot can happen, there will be surprises, and no one knows just yet how things will ultimately shake out. We’re still in the beginning of this. Much will depend on how individual states respond to a resurgent Covid-19 this coming flu season. Democrat states will likely impose shutdowns while Republicans states won’t. I don’t say that to be political, but that is likely what will happen it being an election year and all.
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Old 05-19-2020 | 06:28 AM
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And we have depression-era levels of unemployment too. Not to mention the people who do have money not spending it on traveling and vacations and saving it instead due to economic uncertainty.

I have access to data you don’t and I know much more than I post on APC. In a recent UK Virtual business conference they showed data that said that an almost overwhelming majority of people will not likely get on an airplane in the next 6 months. 50% by the end of 2020 and 75% by the end of 2021 is the goal.
So what I hear you saying is that you have access to secret industry data that apparently no one else here has access to, and that you know much more than it would seem like based on your posting history.

Congratulations, there really is no intelligent way to respond to that.
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Old 05-19-2020 | 06:54 AM
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So what I hear you saying is that you have access to secret industry data that apparently no one else here has access to, and that you know much more than it would seem like based on your posting history.

Congratulations, there really is no intelligent way to respond to that.
None of it is secret. Although some is confidential.
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