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Originally Posted by GA2Jets
(Post 3097482)
Also...by word on the street do you mean, word on the APC forum?
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Originally Posted by point80
(Post 3097425)
Word on the street is........... and less debt.
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Originally Posted by UnbeatenPath
(Post 3097545)
It's coming from XJT. They're asking for concessions to be more competitive with C5s labor cost
Hell no BURN IT DOWN BEFORE YOU GIVE UP ONE EFFING DIME . We made strategic gains in compensation over the last few years and now they want you to take it all back and start over ?? F’ em . |
Originally Posted by ReadOnly7
(Post 3097133)
You clearly haven’t flown it for very long. There IS no B.....C is an aisle seat, and D is a window.
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I see a lot of bashing Kirby all over the place for the regional "whipsaw". But honestly, what does a expect? They are laying of tons of workers, cutting costs everywhere. Of course they are putting pressure on regionals to be cheap or lose business. Whether or not he's personally bad, what would you expect him to do?
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Originally Posted by 3400
(Post 3097640)
The AA 145s are A aisle BC, there is no D.
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Originally Posted by idlethrust
(Post 3097589)
Once concessions start at one Alpa cattier everyone else will be asked to follow suit .
Hell no BURN IT DOWN BEFORE YOU GIVE UP ONE EFFING DIME . We made strategic gains in compensation over the last few years and now they want you to take it all back and start over ?? F’ em . Somebody gets it |
Originally Posted by Happyflyer
(Post 3097117)
XJT certificate still has 175 on it, work a seniority solution or shutter operations preserve the certificate. Displace United pilots to Moxy former XJT certificate, move United owned175s over to it, by cutting a deal with Mesa to operate the Gojet 550s, and furture ones tail for tail.
United ALPA needs to get involved XJT is the most viable option for their furloughs with 175 approval. XJT pilots need to consider what type of seniority bath is acceptable for a possible furloughed United seniority number, vs total cease of operations. If UA pilots had done this and accepted a dogdoo payrate to get the 175 and 145/200/700/900 on property years ago, the kids who've been airline pilots for 6 months and are still living in their parent's basement would be getting furloughed instead of the 35-45 y/o folks who put in 10-20 years at the regionals only to get scooped up last year and now getting furloughed when they finally made it. But UALPA MEC has managed to convince UA pilots that it's better to make $0/hr on furlough when a SkyWest 175 captain is making $120/hr flying DEN-DFW. Well done chaps. |
Originally Posted by threeighteen
(Post 3098490)
The term you're looking for to describe this is "recapture scope."
If UA pilots had done this and accepted a dogdoo payrate to get the 175 and 145/200/700/900 on property years ago, the kids who've been airline pilots for 6 months and are still living in their parent's basement would be getting furloughed instead of the 35-45 y/o folks who put in 10-20 years at the regionals only to get scooped up last year and now getting furloughed when they finally made it. But UALPA MEC has managed to convince UA pilots that it's better to make $0/hr on furlough when a SkyWest 175 captain is making $120/hr flying DEN-DFW. Well done chaps. |
Originally Posted by afterburn81
(Post 3097585)
I get the higher cost due to the Jurassic seniority list. Debt though? These are cash only companies. They have no assets and basically own nothing.
Think of it like cutting off an infected arm (xjet) to save the body (UA) |
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