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Originally Posted by idlethrust
(Post 3095439)
There isn’t enough flying to support 7 or 8 regional carriers . Not now and it won’t be for quite awhile .Unless Uncle Sam starts printing more money to give away, it will be financially impossible for all of these companies to survive .
Something has to give , thats all I’m saying . Unless you own/control the regional you’re trying to mothball. |
Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon
(Post 3095483)
You can’t just hand wave away a contract though....
Unless you own/control the regional you’re trying to mothball. Regardless of Regional or major partner.. if your in the bottom 20% your in for a ruff ride the next 5 years. Furloughed or not... |
Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon
(Post 3095483)
You can’t just hand wave away a contract though....
Unless you own/control the regional you’re trying to mothball. a contract is only worthwhile if you can fund and survive a lawsuit |
Originally Posted by ZeroTT
(Post 3095522)
let’s say united wants to kill Air whiskey. They claim a contractual right to cease all flights on 14 days notice and withhold payment based on some breach. It’s tenuous claim but all of a sudden they have zero cash flow. Chapter 7, done.
a contract is only worthwhile if you can fund and survive a lawsuit |
Originally Posted by pangolin
(Post 3095526)
I doubt there’s any intent to kill a regional.
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Originally Posted by ZeroTT
(Post 3095522)
let’s say united wants to kill Air whiskey. They claim a contractual right to cease all flights on 14 days notice and withhold payment based on some breach. It’s tenuous claim but all of a sudden they have zero cash flow. Chapter 7, done.
a contract is only worthwhile if you can fund and survive a lawsuit |
Folks here are projecting summer 2020 block hours into the future. I’d be skeptical of that being a good way to predict how UAX shakes out. Scope look back, CPA expirations, cost structures, regional solvency, changes after the government cheese runs out, etc, etc will all make the post Oct 2020 world look very different than this summer.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 3095535)
. Hypothetically they might prefer to settle for pennies on the dollar years down the road. But that's pretty Machiavellian.
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Originally Posted by ZeroTT
(Post 3095522)
let’s say united wants to kill Air whiskey. They claim a contractual right to cease all flights on 14 days notice and withhold payment based on some breach. It’s tenuous claim but all of a sudden they have zero cash flow. Chapter 7, done.
a contract is only worthwhile if you can fund and survive a lawsuit |
Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon
(Post 3095483)
You can’t just hand wave away a contract though....
Unless you own/control the regional you’re trying to mothball. Let's say, for example, UA tells GJ that they will only fly 15% of their 2019 block hours indefinitely because that's the minimum in the contract. GJ may not be able to sustain that level of business without any chance for an increase, and may fold as a result. Contract terminated, problem solved for UA. This would be particularly true for airlines with aircraft on lease wherein the lease must be paid regardless of the aircrafts actual flying activity. The aircraft *must* fly for a chance to break even. That's part of what killed TSA, except it was their own pilot shortage that really limited their capacity to fly, not UA. |
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