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TFAYD 09-29-2020 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3137670)
UAX hiring historically tended to start up much sooner after the "trigger event" and would occur while UA was furloughing.

Looks like that's getting pre-empted this time, good on UA-ALPA.

or not

furlough 2000 in June 2021 while I could see SKYW to start hiring again at that time.

rickair7777 09-29-2020 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by TFAYD (Post 3137815)
or not

furlough 2000 in June 2021 while I could see SKYW to start hiring again at that time.

Time will tell.

Hedley 09-30-2020 04:10 AM

The future for UAX or United is far from set in stone. COVID will have a long lasting impact on how the airlines operate, and on how big they are. There is a good chance that the 756 gets phased out as the max comes back, and there is also a good chance that the 50 seat fleet and the number of regionals flying them see a further reduction. Both fleets are getting older and are to the point of aging out. United could be serious about the 50 seaters being all but gone by the end of this, they could end up buying something like the A220 later on and freeing up a few more big rj’s, or a judge could alter the current scope language in bankruptcy. Time will tell.

ReadOnly7 09-30-2020 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by Hedley (Post 3137925)
.... or a judge could alter the current scope language in bankruptcy. Time will tell.

The super senior, super ANGRY folks on the OTHER United forum are suggesting selling scope for pay raises. Let’s hope that goes NOWHERE.

Hedley 09-30-2020 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by ReadOnly7 (Post 3138020)
The super senior, super ANGRY folks on the OTHER United forum are suggesting selling scope for pay raises. Let’s hope that goes NOWHERE.

Those guys are just a vocal very small group who don’t have the votes or influence to change a thing. Kind of like the extremes in politics who think that they are going to abolish the 2nd amendment or outlaw abortion.

ReadOnly7 10-03-2020 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by Hedley (Post 3138065)
Those guys are just a vocal very small group who don’t have the votes or influence to change a thing. Kind of like the extremes in politics who think that they are going to abolish the 2nd amendment or outlaw abortion.

yeah....I started paying attention to the actual NUMBERS on that forum....and it’s never more than 15-20 people. And it’s the SAME people. Must be exhausting.

Excargodog 01-22-2021 11:40 AM

Scope starting to bite...
 
It won’t be just United though. All three of the Big Three have cut back mainline fleets. Initially decreasing the number of seats in their regional feed aircraft will will take care of the scope implications of that, albeit at a significant hit to their CASM, but that may not be sustainable as the second year of decreased seat-miles and all around revenue continues.


https://thepointsguy.com/news/united...ats-from-e175/


The big winners, however, threaten to be SWA and the LCCs leading the recovery domestically.

Excargodog 01-22-2021 03:59 PM

https://i.ibb.co/rx7f083/25-C8-E4-AF...EEA81-B4-B.jpg

LAXtoDEN 01-22-2021 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by TFAYD (Post 3137815)
or not

furlough 2000 in June 2021 while I could see SKYW to start hiring again at that time.

Well, don’t forget that over 2,000 UAX pilots between ExpressJet and Trans States shutdowns were sent to the streets.

Only airline in the UAX system with furloughed pilots is Air Wisconsin with 130 pilots waiting recall. AW’s days may be numbered with the old 200 fleet they possess.

Point I’m making, on the UAX side there are no furloughs to recall, so the only solution would be to hire.

Eagle06 01-22-2021 05:40 PM

Retiring 50 seaters, with no specifics, was mentioned several times on yesterday’s earnings call.


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