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Originally Posted by Eagle06
(Post 3185043)
Retiring 50 seaters, with no specifics, was mentioned several times on yesterday’s earnings call.
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Originally Posted by Hedley
(Post 3185078)
The 50 seaters are getting pretty tired and definitely closer to the end than anything else in the fleet, but United is really good at kicking the can down the road. Saying that the 50 seaters are going to be retired without providing a plan and a date is like telling a 75 year old man that he’s going to die. Could be soon, could be years from now, but still the truth.
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Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN
(Post 3185085)
Yeah that’s true, but with the whole EV movement and Biden’s Master’s doing everything they can to raise the price of fuel, I see the 50 seater dying much sooner than later. The keystone pipeline is just the beginning. UA has a history of pulling the plug in an instant. So when/if it happens, I doubt there’ll be any warning.
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Originally Posted by Random Task
(Post 3185158)
Ahhhhh yes, Biden's master plan. Get elected president of the United States just to raise your gas prices! How devious
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I think Ronald Reagan said it best. “Government’s view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”
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Originally Posted by Random Task
(Post 3185158)
Ahhhhh yes, Biden's master plan. Get elected president of the United States just to raise your gas prices! How devious
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Originally Posted by Cyio
(Post 3185163)
I don’t think of it in such a devious tone, but spending will eventually have to be repaid. There are ways other than taxes to do it, however that tends to be the quickest and easiest route, plus one that has been used in the past.
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Originally Posted by JediCheese
(Post 3185184)
Easier to use inflation. Hard to point fingers with taxes, much easier for the politicians to blame banks for inflation. Not to mention the rich don't mind inflation because they hold assets which keep their real world value vs taxation which tends to be politically expedient to raise on the rich.
https://i.ibb.co/k0MwvbV/EA6-D4865-1...F794-CB1-F.jpg and their financial situation is more precarious now. Except for Alaska, I think all the majors are junk-rated now. And they don’t have the money to pay off their junk rated bonds, instead they must refinance them by selling new bonds collateralized by older airplanes in the face if their own declining credit ratings. That’s bad enough - akin to refinancing credit card debt by repeatedly charging it on a new credit card at higher and higher rates. Add inflation to that, and the yields will skyrocket. How can ANY company make enough profit to pay off $40 billion (which certainly at least AA will reach before this is over) while paying 15-20% interest on that debt? Inflating your way out of debt might work for the government which after all prints money, but it will put every major airline (and most regionals) in bankruptcy if it happens. |
Originally Posted by Hedley
(Post 3185174)
This administration will pass more environmental regulations than would have happened if the election had gone the other way. Policies have compliance cost and consequences. Raise the cost of compliance or restrict the supply, prices go up. Politicians only tell one side of a story to get votes. They will talk about the jobs that were created due to a policy, but they don’t talk about the jobs that were destroyed or the net loss of employment that results. If fuel prices were to get back to where they were back in 2008, the 50 seat fleet could be quickly retired. Just parking the 200 would shut down Air Wisconsin and hit SkyWest hard since they make up a large part of their fleet and the 70/76 seaters are scoped out. That could have a major impact on the future of UAX.
A scenario of the 50 seater going away would hurt the pilot group and with no scope changes would most likely lead to SkyWest furloughs, but SkyWest Inc. would be just fine. |
Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN
(Post 3185224)
The CRJ200 is 30% (closer to 20% a year from now) of the SkyWest fleet. 200’s are all paid off, they have more 175’s coming on property, and own all the future orders of ERJ175’s with the CRJ program shut down. I’d assume some 200’s would be moved to SkyWest leasing, and the rest to the dessert.
A scenario of the 50 seater going away would hurt the pilot group and with no scope changes would most likely lead to SkyWest furloughs, but SkyWest Inc. would be just fine. |
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