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Old 06-09-2007 | 01:33 PM
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I am floating with the idea of moving to the NJ area for the ATP program to finish out my CFI stuff, rather than staying at the college I am already at and finishing my degree there. My question is this: would having an online degree really be that bad. I mean I even said yesterday that I wouldnt want to do that, but going to ATP and finishing my degree online would get me to a regional quicker I think.

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Old 06-09-2007 | 01:40 PM
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Stay where you are at.. finish your degree at a "real" school.
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Old 06-09-2007 | 01:45 PM
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I left school early...will be finishing up online degree - ATP certainly got me into the Airlines a whole lot quicker, but at the cost of a degree. If I was happy where I was at school, I wouldn't have made the move. But I wasn't!!

From my understanding, just like the Airlines do not care about what your degree is in (basket weaving, anybody?!), they really do not care about an online degree...A traditional degree only shows that you can succeed in that type of environment. Once you get through your first Initial Airline training program, it shows that you're trainable by their standards.

Don't let anybody here make the decision for you - we are not intimately knowledgeable about your situation...do whats best for you. But GET a degree somewhere!
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Old 06-09-2007 | 01:50 PM
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From my understanding, just like the Airlines do not care about what your degree is in (basket weaving, anybody?!), they really do not care about an online degree...A traditional degree only shows that you can succeed in that type of environment. Once you get through your first Initial Airline training program, it shows that you're trainable by their standards.
Not sure, but I am guessing that SWA, DL, Emirates, Cathay.. might care .. but who knows

I'm sure regionals dont though..
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Old 06-09-2007 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by KiloAlpha
Stay where you are at.. finish your degree at a "real" school.
I agree with you Kilo. I'm 20 and was told I could probably be at the regionals now but I still have a year left at school and really need to gain more multi engine experience and total time to be competitive and gain some more experience being a CFI. I think by not rushing it things will be better off. However, this is my situation and whatever works better for you is what you should do. I actually did look into the online degree program and found it was more expensive than physically going to class so that helped make up my mind.
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Old 06-09-2007 | 01:57 PM
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I am floating with the idea of moving to the NJ area for the ATP program to finish out my CFI stuff, rather than staying at the college I am already at and finishing my degree there. My question is this: would having an online degree really be that bad. I mean I even said yesterday that I wouldnt want to do that, but going to ATP and finishing my degree online would get me to a regional quicker I think.

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I see you are flying the good old BE-76. Awesome trainer. I had a lot of fun in the Duchess I got my multi in that but I fly the BE-58 now.
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Old 06-09-2007 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB
I left school early...will be finishing up online degree - ATP certainly got me into the Airlines a whole lot quicker, but at the cost of a degree. If I was happy where I was at school, I wouldn't have made the move. But I wasn't!!

From my understanding, just like the Airlines do not care about what your degree is in (basket weaving, anybody?!), they really do not care about an online degree...A traditional degree only shows that you can succeed in that type of environment. Once you get through your first Initial Airline training program, it shows that you're trainable by their standards.

Don't let anybody here make the decision for you - we are not intimately knowledgeable about your situation...do whats best for you. But GET a degree somewhere!
Not to throw spears, but it may be helpful to the younger guys if you can post your experiences about flying the line while trying to finish a degree. I did so, but not online. It was a challenge to stay motivated. Luckily for me, I was flying out and backs almost every trip. I couldn't imagine having to do it when being out of town for the better part of the week. My advice is to finish school and then start working for a living.
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Old 06-09-2007 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB
I left school early...will be finishing up online degree - ATP certainly got me into the Airlines a whole lot quicker, but at the cost of a degree. If I was happy where I was at school, I wouldn't have made the move. But I wasn't!!

From my understanding, just like the Airlines do not care about what your degree is in (basket weaving, anybody?!), they really do not care about an online degree...A traditional degree only shows that you can succeed in that type of environment. Once you get through your first Initial Airline training program, it shows that you're trainable by their standards.

Don't let anybody here make the decision for you - we are not intimately knowledgeable about your situation...do whats best for you. But GET a degree somewhere!

Well being unhappy with the school I am at brought me to this idea in the first place. We have one duchess, 5 skyhawks and a 172RG... not bad. Lotsa good people too. The problem is the director... he wants the school to grow but doesnt care about the current students all that much... plus he is 70 years old. I have about a year and a half left to finish my degree; the aviation classes are all I need. My problem is that I dont even know if I can finish in that amount of time because the av classes are rotated once every 2 years, with none in the summer. I was thinking about independent studying the ones I would come up short on... but when i went to the av. professors none of them will do it because the school doesnt pay them for independent study.

Thats the biggest problem for me now... I dont want to stay in school longer than I need especially when I know that I will have just one or two classes that I know I could just independent study do get done in that period of time.

To top it off... we just lost our only mechanic... now the 100hrs and 50hrs are going to be done by the director when he "has the time"....

I just hate the the fact of having an online degree.

This is going off into a rant.. I will stop here.
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Old 06-09-2007 | 03:35 PM
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I see you are flying the good old BE-76. Awesome trainer. I had a lot of fun in the Duchess I got my multi in that but I fly the BE-58 now.
Yeah lots fun... I had never seen one before until the school received it back in January. When I called for a WX brief, the briefer asked what type of aircraft, told him BE-76 Duchess... he was like wow! I didnt think those were still around.

Very easy to fly and land... Kinda looks like a pelican... Still multi time though.
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Old 06-09-2007 | 04:03 PM
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Half of my college credits are through utah valley state college....pretty easy program and i think they take a lot of transfer stuff. I took 22 credits in 2 months, its not hard at all, I then transferred them into a different college. Are you looking at ATP in trenton?
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