Would this be bad???
08-02-2007 | 10:04 AM
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From: Capt. of the Couch, CRJ700
Wrong. It is because we were once 250 hour pilots as well. At the time we probably felt we were prepared for the airlines, and wouldn't learn anything by doing steep turns and traffic patterns all day long. Only after about 500 hours of dual given did we realize how totally clueless we were at 250 hours.
Being a CFI was the most valuable aviation experience I've had. I learned more as a CFI about human psychology, situational awareness, working ATC, command decision making, severe weather, and dealing with the unexpected than I did during all of my flight training. Anyone can run a checklist and learn callouts and profiles. It's the stuff you can't learn in a book that has everyone else concerned about low time pilots.
Being a CFI was the most valuable aviation experience I've had. I learned more as a CFI about human psychology, situational awareness, working ATC, command decision making, severe weather, and dealing with the unexpected than I did during all of my flight training. Anyone can run a checklist and learn callouts and profiles. It's the stuff you can't learn in a book that has everyone else concerned about low time pilots.
Props to that. I did it the hard way and even if some get to do it the easy way you still have to earn the right. Dont be in such a hurry, everyone wants to be "living the dream" butt some time it isnt all that. Take your time and learn more about flying other then how to fly a cessna and do patterns all day. Say what you want but at 600hrs I dont think I would want to be flying a across the ground at 500 kts with metal tube with 53 lives onboard that trust that I know what I am doing. Just a thought...
08-02-2007 | 10:06 AM
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From: UPS 757/767 Capt ONT
"I have yet to meet a regional, major or cargo pilot face to face that doesn't say "Go for it!"
You're asking them the wrong question. Ask them how they would like flying with a 250 hour guy right off of IOE into LAX.
You're asking them the wrong question. Ask them how they would like flying with a 250 hour guy right off of IOE into LAX.
08-02-2007 | 10:20 AM
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From: RC-3 Seabee. Skipper of the A21 cutter.
Funny you mention that because a good friend of mine in Phoenix happens to do just that. He's a captain at a regional that hires anyone with a pulse and eyesight. As you're well aware, those guys fly with low timers consistently. He has a few complaints here and there about minor things such as forgetting to put the landing gear down, to slow without flaps, missing ATC calls, accidently dumping fuel...Things like that.
Just joking!
He does notice that most are a bit nervous for the first several days of IOE but they start to get the hang of it, far from comfortable but they get into the swing of things. He says it's a great learning experience for himself as he learns something new everytime. He enjoys it. But I'll be shutting up now, observing and reading some good advice. 
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08-02-2007 | 10:37 AM
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From: UPS 757/767 Capt ONT
Good for him. Keep asking around. I assure you, I wouldn't enjoy it. Nor did the last guy I recommended at UPS who was a checkairman at Mesa.
Blastboy, I just looked at your website and it doesn't seem you are at a regional. I assumed you were at an airline. What's you background in aviation?
Blastboy, I just looked at your website and it doesn't seem you are at a regional. I assumed you were at an airline. What's you background in aviation?
08-02-2007 | 10:43 AM
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I assure you that after years of busting my ass trying to get to a major, I didn't appreciate having to take the jet from a few FO's so as not to damage the a/c or get violated. Even less so when you can see the light at the end of the tunnel. Your friend must be special...
08-02-2007 | 06:20 PM
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From: RC-3 Seabee. Skipper of the A21 cutter.
Good for him. Keep asking around. I assure you, I wouldn't enjoy it. Nor did the last guy I recommended at UPS who was a checkairman at Mesa.
Blastboy, I just looked at your website and it doesn't seem you are at a regional. I assumed you were at an airline. What's you background in aviation?
Blastboy, I just looked at your website and it doesn't seem you are at a regional. I assumed you were at an airline. What's you background in aviation?
If you read my posts, it's crystal clear that I'm working on my CFI. I'm not trying to hide anything. If you're attempting to one-up yourself by baiting to get a response from me that you would in turn deep fry in front of the entire forum, I'm sorry to disappoint you. But feel free to roast at your hearts content. If I'm wrong about that you have my deepest and most sincere apology.
Should my website reflect all aspects of my life? What if I was an RJ pilot? You just assumed I wasn't because you didn't see such information on my website. People have other hobbies, interests and businesses you know. What did my website and aviation background have to do with this discussion anyway? Exhibit some professional courtesy and send me a PM if you want that information as it has no place in this discussion. I would appreciate that as would anyone else.
I was merely making a point that a low time pilot and the CFI have no jet or 121 experience and will be faced with an equal challenge. That's it! I've made my point and I'm moving on.
08-02-2007 | 07:41 PM
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Wrong. It is because we were once 250 hour pilots as well. At the time we probably felt we were prepared for the airlines, and wouldn't learn anything by doing steep turns and traffic patterns all day long. Only after about 500 hours of dual given did we realize how totally clueless we were at 250 hours.
Being a CFI was the most valuable aviation experience I've had. I learned more as a CFI about human psychology, situational awareness, working ATC, command decision making, severe weather, and dealing with the unexpected than I did during all of my flight training. Anyone can run a checklist and learn callouts and profiles. It's the stuff you can't learn in a book that has everyone else concerned about low time pilots.
Being a CFI was the most valuable aviation experience I've had. I learned more as a CFI about human psychology, situational awareness, working ATC, command decision making, severe weather, and dealing with the unexpected than I did during all of my flight training. Anyone can run a checklist and learn callouts and profiles. It's the stuff you can't learn in a book that has everyone else concerned about low time pilots.
08-02-2007 | 07:46 PM
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From: A320/321 FO
You'll be the first to know when I meet a captain who feels sour towards his FO. Coincidentally, my wife and I are having a brown driver (may even be on the forum here) and his wife over for dinner tonight (lovely couple. both clients of ours). I'd be more than happy to ask him if I feel it's appropriate.
If you read my posts, it's crystal clear that I'm working on my CFI. I'm not trying to hide anything. If you're attempting to one-up yourself by baiting to get a response from me that you would in turn deep fry in front of the entire forum, I'm sorry to disappoint you. But feel free to roast at your hearts content. If I'm wrong about that you have my deepest and most sincere apology.
Should my website reflect all aspects of my life? What if I was an RJ pilot? You just assumed I wasn't because you didn't see such information on my website. People have other hobbies, interests and businesses you know. What did my website and aviation background have to do with this discussion anyway? Exhibit some professional courtesy and send me a PM if you want that information as it has no place in this discussion. I would appreciate that as would anyone else.
I was merely making a point that a low time pilot and the CFI have no jet or 121 experience and will be faced with an equal challenge. That's it! I've made my point and I'm moving on.
If you read my posts, it's crystal clear that I'm working on my CFI. I'm not trying to hide anything. If you're attempting to one-up yourself by baiting to get a response from me that you would in turn deep fry in front of the entire forum, I'm sorry to disappoint you. But feel free to roast at your hearts content. If I'm wrong about that you have my deepest and most sincere apology.
Should my website reflect all aspects of my life? What if I was an RJ pilot? You just assumed I wasn't because you didn't see such information on my website. People have other hobbies, interests and businesses you know. What did my website and aviation background have to do with this discussion anyway? Exhibit some professional courtesy and send me a PM if you want that information as it has no place in this discussion. I would appreciate that as would anyone else.
I was merely making a point that a low time pilot and the CFI have no jet or 121 experience and will be faced with an equal challenge. That's it! I've made my point and I'm moving on.
Good Lord, Jesus, and the Shepards!
08-02-2007 | 08:15 PM
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Wrong. It is because we were once 250 hour pilots as well. At the time we probably felt we were prepared for the airlines, and wouldn't learn anything by doing steep turns and traffic patterns all day long. Only after about 500 hours of dual given did we realize how totally clueless we were at 250 hours.
Being a CFI was the most valuable aviation experience I've had. I learned more as a CFI about human psychology, situational awareness, working ATC, command decision making, severe weather, and dealing with the unexpected than I did during all of my flight training. Anyone can run a checklist and learn callouts and profiles. It's the stuff you can't learn in a book that has everyone else concerned about low time pilots.
Being a CFI was the most valuable aviation experience I've had. I learned more as a CFI about human psychology, situational awareness, working ATC, command decision making, severe weather, and dealing with the unexpected than I did during all of my flight training. Anyone can run a checklist and learn callouts and profiles. It's the stuff you can't learn in a book that has everyone else concerned about low time pilots.
The other day in the mad dog sim i was asked to hand fly a NDB approach with no other guidance than the RMI. I was admittedly nervous but it went great due in part to the hundreds of hours i spent teaching others to do just that. (with a fixed card ADF no less.) AHHHHH!
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08-02-2007 | 08:36 PM
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From: UPS 757/767 Capt ONT
"What did my website and aviation background have to do with this discussion anyway?"
"that information as it has no place in this discussion"
Actually, it has a lot to do with it....
Just trying to figure out what your background is. You spend a lot of time at this site telling people with far more experience than you how it is and how it should be. Now, if you were an RJ Capt, I'd say you earned the right.
Have a nice dinner with the UPS guy. Say hi for me.
"that information as it has no place in this discussion"
Actually, it has a lot to do with it....
Just trying to figure out what your background is. You spend a lot of time at this site telling people with far more experience than you how it is and how it should be. Now, if you were an RJ Capt, I'd say you earned the right.
Have a nice dinner with the UPS guy. Say hi for me.
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