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Old 12-04-2008 | 09:38 AM
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Here you guys go, hope this will help some of you...

WORK FORCE INVESTMENT ACT FUNDS
For Furloughed/Displaced Aviation Workers

The Workforce Investment Act (WIA) provides funds to help displaced workers obtain the necessary training to find work. It is a federally funded program but each individual state is allowed to choose how they distribute the money. Each state has a list of �approved� courses & schools. The types of training vary from state to state, & the amount of money they give to each individual also varies from state to state. Some states have a $2500 limit & others have paid up to $18,400 for an A300 type rating.
  1. Do not wait until after you are furloughed to find out what is available to you. In Pennsylvania, many people were approved for funds 3 weeks before they were furloughed & started B737 type rating training shortly after their furlough date.
  2. As pilots & dispatchers, we work for a company headquartered in 1 state; are based in another state (or have been based in more than 1 state in the past year); & live in another state. Depending on what state your employer paid your unemployment insurance, you may be eligible for funds from any or all of those states.
  3. Visit or call the unemployment office. Explain your situation. Ask to speak with someone who can tell you what type of training the WIA funds will cover. The first person you speak with is quite often misinformed or knows little about WIA. The most common response to your questions is �No� when they don�t know the answer. If you don�t like the response you get, ask to speak to a supervisor, or visit another unemployment office. Once you get the individual in charge of WIA funding, be prepared to convince him that you NEED this training to get a job. (AGS can provide a copy of a current publication proving jobs are available nationwide for dispatchers and pilots, or look at our dispatcher job listings on our home page).
  4. If you do not get the results you want from the bureaucrats, try calling the school you wish to attend. If the school is WIA-approved by your state, they may be able to give you some insider tips on how to get funding. 1 person was denied funding by a state that had given funds to other applicants for the same training. The school was able to intercede on his behalf with the state & assist in securing train- ing funds.
  5. If the school is not on the approved list in your state, the school can apply for approval. Airline Ground Schools will make application immediately via the internet to your state requesting approval if you are interested in Dispatcher or Pilot training. Each state, unfortunately, handles WIA funding & a school must apply to every state which is time-consuming. AGS is currently approved in KY, OH, CO, & our application is pending in CA.
Securing WIA Funds From Individual States

**To look up WIA contact and procedural information please visit the Department of Labor's WIA website**
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Old 12-04-2008 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by evilboy
Oh no question about that. That's why I'm going to get the damn WIA program to pay for one. I'm very seriously considering going overseas. Don't have much hope in the industry here for the next few years. Already one of my crashpad mates got a job flying a challenger in Dubai. Another one had dual citizenship (Australia) and got a job with Qantas (as long as he takes the tests over there).

Tell me how you are getting WIA with the way our furlough letter is stated. To be eligible for WIA you must be laid off with no chance of recall. Help me. How are you getting around this. I have the WIA panphlet next to me
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Old 12-04-2008 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by evilboy
It's all about who you know in there. If you have friends working in the company, it helps you. I got a friend with @ 2k hours, no 121 PIC, A320 type, worked for Spirit, who just got hired with Etihad last month. It's all about who you know.
Considaring ETIHAD is hiring ONLY into the A320 right now that seems why......... we DO have a contact there
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Old 12-04-2008 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Paok
Considaring ETIHAD is hiring ONLY into the A320 right now that seems why......... we DO have a contact there
Check ur messages.
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Old 12-04-2008 | 11:17 AM
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new message out on epic from Bendover, he says there is no additional impact on Comair in 2009. He referenced the new memo out from Delta and said that the reduction in capacity will not effect us.


I guess we will wait and see
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Old 12-04-2008 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Pantera
new message out on epic from Bendover, he says there is no additional impact on Comair in 2009. He referenced the new memo out from Delta and said that the reduction in capacity will not effect us.


I guess we will wait and see
I guess that's the good news for the month.
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Old 12-04-2008 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Pantera
new message out on epic from Bendover, he says there is no additional impact on Comair in 2009. He referenced the new memo out from Delta and said that the reduction in capacity will not effect us.


I guess we will wait and see
Were his lips moving? That's the trouble with email these days. You can't tell.
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Old 12-04-2008 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JetPilotMike
Geez, I remember when CVG had 35,000+ block hours. Sad to see what Delta continues to do to a once great airline. Hard to believe that as an (ex) late 1999 hire I would barely hold Captain after this next round. This industry....
CVG may still have plenty of block hours, just not Comair in CVG. Nowdays you've got Freedom, Pinnacle, ASA, and CHQ with enough Cincy flying to have pilot bases here (not official bases, but should be). Plus SKW doing the salt-in-the-wound trips (CVG-ATL, CVG-MSP, etc).

Back in the day 35,000 Cincy hours meant 35,000 Comair hours, but I guess Delta saw the error of that in 2001.
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Old 12-04-2008 | 04:06 PM
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Hey here is a plan........screw Delta! Yeh sorry but I don't give a rats *** about using the APU or Single engine taxi. Why? Has it done ONE thing to give me more money or save a fellow pilots job? F U Delta! If you want to burn Comair to the ground I will do my best to take Delta with me!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 12-04-2008 | 04:18 PM
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You better watch out for the APU sheriff
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