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Old 06-15-2009 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by PILOTGUY
Actually, it is way off the truth. According to those in the "know" at the GO, the "F" word is not even being avoided. One person very high in the food chain says that anymore of that is very unlikely at all.

Before that info was even talked about, the number was going to be around 20-30. So the previous number that someone stated was about 500% off.
Anymore of what?

So you're saying that they were talking about furloughing, but only 20-30..but now Comair is looking at no additional furloughs in the fall?

Who are are you speaking of when you say mention those that are "in the know"?
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Old 06-15-2009 | 10:42 AM
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well if its true that they were only going to furlough 20-30 they better hang on a for a few weeks and check out how many guys are putting in there 2 weeks.

According to T.O'B. in jfk last week 5 FO's put in their notice this week alone.


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Rumors at mesa is United will be pulling all of there dash 8's and 26 200's in fall. According to mesa's own filings they will have to declare bankruptcy. Also according to Mesa's 10k Delta has an early out option if either party declares bankruptcy. Delta may not have to wait on the court to make a decision.
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Old 06-15-2009 | 10:50 AM
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Yes, I have heard about people putting in their notices as well. Noticed a few CAs on that as well.

Yes, they are saying that there will be no furloughs this fall. The numbers that they were given are the absolute minimum for flight hours. With those numbers, there would have been 20-30 furloughs most likely. The thing with that is we ALWAYS end up having way more hours than what was initially estimated, hence the scenario of zero furloughs. I don't name people here unless I am dragging them through the mud for stupidity, but two different department heads have said this where I was listening first hand.
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Old 06-15-2009 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
well if its true that they were only going to furlough 20-30 they better hang on a for a few weeks and check out how many guys are putting in there 2 weeks.

According to T.O'B. in jfk last week 5 FO's put in their notice this week alone.


Side note here:

Rumors at mesa is United will be pulling all of there dash 8's and 26 200's in fall. According to mesa's own filings they will have to declare bankruptcy. Also according to Mesa's 10k Delta has an early out option if either party declares bankruptcy. Delta may not have to wait on the court to make a decision.
The Mesa rumor is not true. The source of the rumor is supposed to be Foley who is a senior manager. A senior manager with a large amount of stock options will never in public speak of the demise of his company.
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Old 06-15-2009 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by PILOTGUY
Yes, I have heard about people putting in their notices as well. Noticed a few CAs on that as well.

Yes, they are saying that there will be no furloughs this fall. The numbers that they were given are the absolute minimum for flight hours. With those numbers, there would have been 20-30 furloughs most likely. The thing with that is we ALWAYS end up having way more hours than what was initially estimated, hence the scenario of zero furloughs. I don't name people here unless I am dragging them through the mud for stupidity, but two different department heads have said this where I was listening first hand.
Okay I was at the meeting with Bendo today. His words were at this time, we do not know about furloughs in the fall, Delta has not released the fall sced yet, but we do expect a MAJOR pull down in block hours.

Stay tuned. He also said he doesn't expect recalls for a long, long, time.
I appreciated his honesty. It appears that Bendo doesn't know anymore than we do, aside from wait and see.

If you find yourself with other oppurtunities, take it. Comair, well.........
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Old 06-15-2009 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by flycrj200
The Mesa rumor is not true. The source of the rumor is supposed to be Foley who is a senior manager. A senior manager with a large amount of stock options will never in public speak of the demise of his company.
Foley's options can't be worth much. I know a few Mesa pilots, will check with them to what they have heard.
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Old 06-15-2009 | 04:14 PM
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Hmmm it's almost time for a Ng5! Bendo's term is almost up if Delta's still sticking to the schedule.
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Old 06-15-2009 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by On Autopilot
but we do expect a MAJOR pull down in block hours.

He also said he doesn't expect recalls for a long, long, time.
No. Really? Wow, I didn't expect that....

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Old 06-15-2009 | 05:30 PM
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Isn't there a way on Deltanet to see the schedule a few months in advance?
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Old 06-15-2009 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboDog
Isn't there a way on Deltanet to see the schedule a few months in advance?
Yea, go on travelnet pick a month and a day a few months from now and hit get flights
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